What stops me doing wrong in a materialistic universe?

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Originally Posted by windsurfer-sp

Justice to me is so important. I feel like justice is built in to us as human beings.

I find it strange when people use justice as a word that has some grandeur to it when it's a very simple concept.

Yes, justice is built-in to humans, but justice is selfish ultimately. The idea is, "I don't want to be killed, so it is a very good idea to not kill anyone else, as this will increase the chances of it happening to me." And thus social norms are created. Justice is built in because human beings don't like dying, pain, hunger, etc., and it is the system that minimizes these things.


I find it funny when people consider a god to be the ultimate judge of what is just, though. Our morals are based on what we do like and don't like done to us. If an ultimate creator even put pain, hunger, death, etc. into the system it created itself, then clearly these things are totally dandy. Or else, why create them? Why even create wrong?

A god should be the last entity to care about what you do because it is the one who gave you the opportunity to do it in the first place.