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Old 11-13-2007, 01:55 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Tokzic View Post
None of your points have any evidence behind them, and your argument sounds like preaching. It's arrogant beyond belief to say that atheism isn't valid in the face of fact, especially when you didn't give a fact beforehand, but an illogical speculation. Please study the rules before you post in CT again.
This has already been stated, restated, and then stated officially. It didn't need another one.

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But how did the can of paint come to being, and what caused it to spill?
Yes, that's the problem of infinite regress, and why the entire discussion about causeless causes is silly, but my point in proposing that example of cause and effect was that brandonmcginnis was pointing only to things that couldn't in his opinion occur randomly. One of his examples was that paintings need a painter. I was simply demonstrating that you can generate a painting without a painter. Or at least, if you define "painter" as "the cause of a painting" that you can have a painting without an intelligent, planning painter.
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