is the esrb doing a good job

[MixMasterLar]

Squeek, it seems to me that your just being obnoxious.

I applaud the ESRB for putting up with all the idiocy in this country and still maintaining a level of professionalism in their ratings.

I lol'ed at this. The ESRB Let's anything that's said in music (like said in the first few post) go by without anything and then slaps a M on Halo. Halo is better then most every WWII game as far as gore.

Historical games without massive blood and gore deserve a "T" rating because they're intended to be a historical representation of actual events in human history.

Squeek, WWII games arent ment for that. I dont even need a few examples...
but the one line of games that pops in my head are the Medal Of Honor games. From game two, it was a confussing fantasy (Panzernaucker UNLEASE!). BattleField isnt teaching History either and most WWII games I played arent done in line with History.

Flight Simulators aren't just about killing things. Halo is ONLY about killing things. Also, destroying a piece of machinery != killing a living being.

Who's flying that "piece of machinary"? Most Flight sims that have you shoot are WWII era, so dont say a robot is flying it.

No, it's the killing.

First of all, Sonic, Ratchet and Clank, etc. The monsters are robots. Robots aren't people. And in other games like Mario or whatever, you don't really kill monsters. You jump on their heads. They faint. That's not killing. That's removing the threat.

They faint? are you kidding me? they die. you make them into pancakes and they die. Im sure our own mothers have seen Mario and can tell that they die.

Here's the thing about human history. It's real. It happened. Students learn about World War II's violent side in high school. High schoolers are teenagers. Therefore, they're obviously seen as mature enough to play a recreation of what they're learning.

WWII shooters arent a recreation. My father and I have done re-enactments of real events in the Civil War,and know that you need to be alot more strict then any game to be a recreation

Kids aren't playing these games going YEAH YEAH DIE YOU STUPID GERMANS ROFL NOOB. The games are very serious and it's quite obvious the entire time you're fighting for the defense of America.

Yeah they do. and in answer to that post you'll undoubtfully throw my way, I'll give my link of proof as soon as you give yours

Kids have always said things like "Die stupid stickguy" while playing games like Fatal Fury or "Die frickin' mushroon" when playing Mario. It hasnt gotten better since the late 80s my friend.

Do you even know what you're defending in Halo, or is it just about blowing up aliens? Do you even know the name of the planet you're defending? Not unless you've read the books or the instruction manual.

Sounds like your getting short on points. Your defending humans.
edit: by that logic, Pacman is M...

Call of Duty Activision T Blood, Violence Online, Windows PC
Medal of Honor Frontline Electronic Arts T Violence Gamecube, Playstation 2, Xbox
Halo Microsoft M Blood and Gore, Violence Xbox

Our point is that the ratings are off, we can look up what they are ourselves.

The difference between an M and a T is just as I told you. Gore. Halo goes just a step further than the WWII games according to the ESRB.

Yeah, we know. Our point is Halo is the same if not better then other WWII games and that the ESRB is wrong, so saying "The ESRB says" really doesnt do much.

Killing implies gore. These days, if someone dies and there's no blood around them, it's as if they didn't die at all.

Surley you jest. Even 6 year olds think of it has "boom! look mommy, he dead"

Minimal blood in halo? You mean to tell me that every time a bullet hit an enemy, blood did NOT spurt out from the wound?

The WWII games are just as bad, some worst. Halo has almost no blood unless your Neo and slowed down time to observe it.

You sure you're playing 'Halo' and not 'iHola!' ?

I want to know what your playing, really.

Don't know if you noticed, but the other popular "alien killer / shooter" is rated T. I wonder why that is.

PS - It's Metroid Prime.

So the ESRB had someone who knew what he was doing that day. The thread is about if the ESRB is doing their job good enought and the answer is no. games are either over-rated or under-rated (wasnt Feel the Magic a T game? Soul Calibur 3? Tony Hawks' Underground 2?) The ESRB is doing a lousy job. I dont even read the rating and my mom just ask me if a game is good for my brothers to play instead of looking at it.

Squeek, the ESRB is a joke IMO, and most people seem to agree with me.