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Old 07-7-2007, 01:22 AM   #9
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Default Re: Real musicians

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Jazz is widely accepted as a type of music because there was a time when it was a favorite among people.
What the hell does "a favorite among people" mean? You mean it's a favorite among people who like Jazz? Because I assure you, there was no time where jazz music was everyones favorite.

If by that you meant what was popular, than your argument is illogical anyway. I assure you African drumming was a lot more popular for a lot longer in Africa than Jazz ever even got close to in America.

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On a side note, I am in a military education program, so I have heard military drumming quite extensively. Also, I was regrettably forced to endure the torture that is African drumming by teacher of mine, who was very zealous about African culture and heritage. The entire month of February was spent listening to African music, reading African stories, and studying African authors. I despised the music; it was horrible.
Good thing to know that since you have heard both kinds of music that your musical opinion is now fact. ("OLOLOL GUYS I DESPISE THIS MUSIC LOLOLO IT'S HORRRRRRIBLE NOW, OK?!?!?! LOLOLOL)

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But honestly, would you really want to listen to military drumming or African drumming in your free time? Would you have those on your iPod? Is that music you would want to listen to over other types of music equally available? The vast majority of people would say no.
Unfortunately, You're probably right. But great part about it is, just because the "Vast majority" doesn't listen to african drumming does not make it NOT music. The "Vast majority" of people don't listen Crack Rock Steady or Noisecore, but both are still considered music.

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Thus, the vast majority is less likely to consider a drummer a musician (elaborated below). Also, there was never a point in American history where drums by themselves were enjoyed by the masses. Folk and classical music gave way to big band, swing, etc.
I suggest you not post after this, as to not embarrass yourself anymore. Ever heard of a steel drum? Didn't think so.

Also see the bold for this statement: "AMERICA ARES THE ONLY ONES THE EVAR MADE MUSIC EVAR!!!"

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When I say people are less likely to consider a drummer a musician, I mean that if you ask a person "Which of the following fits your definition of "musician" better? Guitarist or drummer?" they will say a guitarist. The guitarist then becomes the standard, and since a drummer is "less" than a guitarist (in terms of the person's definition), they do not as readily qualify for the title "musician."
I don't know a single person who wouldn't say, "They both fit equally." But then again, I don't usually hang around musically retarded people. Might want to look into that.

Start with a mirror.

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However, people like to listen to music that only has one, say, guitar. If you turn on the radio to a station that plays a variety of music, you'll often hear at least one song that's sung by one person and an acoustic guitar. Nothing else. This is why guitarists are more widely accepted as musicians than drummers; drums can't create an appealing type of music by themselves.
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This is because their pitch variety is severely limited compared to other instruments. The piano has all its keys and the foot pedals, string instruments have a nearly infinite number of pitches (due to the way pitch change on string instruments works), instruments like the flute have many variable pitches based on the position(s) of the fingers, etc. But the drums are limited, pitch-wise, to each individual drum and the cymbals available. The patterns and combinations created with them allow for great diversity, but the number of actual pitches is severely limited when compared to other mainstream instruments. While it can create a lot of combinations of pitches, the other instruments can create a lot MORE pitches, allowing for a more diverse melody. With the drums, rhythm is all you really have: each individual drum or cymbal being hit at a certain point.
Step 1: www.google.com
Step 2: Type in "Steel Drum" (or any of the other hundreds of percussion instruments that produce many different notes).
Step 3: Read.
Step 4: STFU.

You are so ****ing ignorant it's ridiculous. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.
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