Real musicians

[devonin]

Too many elitist people try and say that stuff is or isn't music, just because it's not what they like etc

And insofar as we are talking about their perspective, they are correct too. Music is exactly and precisely: "Whatever you claim is music"

Being an artform, its existance is entirely subjective. To each individual, whatever they identify as being 'art' 'music' etc -is- 'art' 'music' etc.

The interesting question is less "What do some people consider music that others don't" but "Is there anything that is -universally- agreed upon as being music"