A big problem for Evolution?

[GuidoHunter]

Sigh. First of all: grammar, dude, grammar. It's required of you.

Originally Posted by das1ngerplayer

Many things the Bible has been saying for thousands of years, science has been saying for the past couple hundred years. Places like Isreal, the Red Sea (I think that's the sea Moses parted...not that it's to big a deal), and many cities in the middle east today are all mentioned and have a role in the Bible.

Wow, whoever wrote the Bible has eyes. Proof! The middle east was a nexus of civilization during Jesus' time and long before that. I don't get what this is claiming.

The Bible talks about dinosaurs which we bury up today.

Oh, really? Verses, please. The oxymoron of "burying up" something aside, I don't recall any place in the Bible where fossilized animals were excavated.

No matter what anyone says it is impossiby to deny the Bible's truth.

You just don't get it, do you?

One topic of controversy that is popular, did humans evolve from monkeys (or apes).

Well, that's not what evolution claims to have happened, but I guess you can debate any controversy that you want to concoct.

I'll say two things about that. One is I don't want to believe any idea that I evolved from a monkey, I prefer to be human.

You don't get to be sloppy with your terms for the sake of rhetoric, here. Monkeys are very distantly related to us; apes are our genealogic cousins.

Also, just because you and Koko might have had a common ancestor doesn't for a second mean you're any less human. That just sounds like insecurity to me.

That does not mean that we evolved from them though.

Way to read the thread. It's been said several times that this is not what evolution claims. Stop basing your points on false premises and you might have something to stand on.

If you focus on evolution (like many of you are), you don't see what us christians think. You say your right just because it makes "sense" yet your not considering that we (christians) feel the same way about you (athiests).

Do you have the vaguest idea as to who's a Christian, who's an atheist, and who's neither in this thread? Way to make sweeping generalizations about a group of people of whom you know nothing. I am very much a Christian and have very little problem reconciling the acceptance of evolution with my Christian faith-based beliefs. You're just being intellectually dishonest if you think that there's an overlap and the two are mutually exclusive.

If you say 'Oh, the Bible has no evidence' well I'll say 'Oh, evolution doesn't have much evidence.

What the hell, man? Are all of my posts invisible to you? You're comparing apples and oranges here!

I try to base my opinion on combining both science (evolutiom) and the Bible.

And therein lies your fault. You have to look at something with a specific frame of mind. Either look at an issue scientifically or look at it religiously. They are (and I can't believe I'm having to say this again), by definition, mutually exclusive realms. You CANNOT combine the two, no matter how much you truly want to.

I say what if God created the Big Bang and that's how life came to be in a way (as in just to quickly summarize it). As for evolution, I think there were humans years ago. I do think they may not have been the same a us today but non the less they were humans (not monkeys or apes).

THINK about creationism and how it too is true in many ways.

In what sense is it "true"? You weren't around for the creation of the universe, so you don't know what's true or not. As such, you have to look at the evidence.

In a religious frame of mind, God created the world and said so in the Bible. Case closed, no problems.

In a scientific frame of mind, effectively no evidence points toward creationism and mountains of evidence support evolution.

Now it comes down to which one you would rather trust. You chose the former, clearly, but you cannot fault someone else for choosing the latter. When it all boils down, though, we can't find any "truth" since there's no way to know for sure.

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