TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- Xiz -- Gradiant (39), DaBackpack (74), Vendetta21 (28)
• 3 -- Gradiant -- Xiz (74), dLGN (137), AragakiAyase (81)
• 2 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (14), storn42 (14)
• 1 -- storn42 -- botchi246 (14)
• 1 -- XelNya -- rzr (58)
• 1 -- dLGN -- Tokzic (15)
• 1 -- no lynch -- Charu (70)
• 1 -- unvote -- XelNya (92)

:00 good :01 bad

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

unvote

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

my vote isn't moving unless something extraordinary happens (like kitb between two people who aren't gradiant)

[storn42]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

I don't like this Xiz movement at all.

Dolgin, Gradiant, and Storn are all way better options.

like seriously, i've heard no real arguments on how xiz is a good lynch, and now they've both jumped for no reason. even I agree that im a better fucking lynch at this point.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

Xiz

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

When i flip as hobo:

- kill batchi
- kill gradiant
- third idk. Either charu / V but i doubt.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

unvote

deciding lmao this game

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

like seriously, i've heard no real arguments on how xiz is a good lynch, and now they've both jumped for no reason. even I agree that im a better fucking lynch at this point.

well now we have 3 hobo claims

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

unvote

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

one day tokzic you will learn how to read me correclty instead of fuckin the game over lol

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

im pissed off im not joining slack. im playing osu bye.

[storn42]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

well now we have 3 hobo claims

are you saying that i claimed hobo at some point? or do you actually know 3 people who've claimed hobo

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

I am not the only cancer in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not the only cancer in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not the only cancer in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not the only cancer in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not the only cancer in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

okay so botchi xiz and tokzic are off the table for today until we determine which one of them is a wolf

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

oh im going to link all chats everyone sent me:

AA

aragakiayase [12:34 PM]
toxzic to a lesser extent

xiz [12:34 PM]
As of now i more wanna kill rzr/gradiant/??

[12:35]
prob charu idk

aragakiayase [12:35 PM]
charu isn't shitposting at all which leans me towards town but also confuses me

xiz [12:35 PM]
charu has done a lot of filler

aragakiayase [12:35 PM]
because he normally always shitpost?

[12:35]
hmm maybe I should iso him

xiz [12:35 PM]
no charu doesnt

aragakiayase [12:35 PM]
hmm maybe it's the last few games I've played with him

xiz [12:36 PM]
if he was pm'n everyone and just that - thats different

[12:36]
but from the looks of it he hasnt pm'd either of us

aragakiayase [12:36 PM]
wait how would him pming him change your read?

[12:36]
towards town or wolf?

xiz [12:36 PM]
because he has done nothing

[12:36]
if he has been not been posting in thread

[12:37]
but just pm'n everyone

[12:37]
i can see that as towny

[12:37]
becuase thats what i was going to do this game lol

aragakiayase [12:37 PM]
and then no one PMed you :stuck_out_tongue:

xiz [12:37 PM]
but i got too sick at the start of d1 and forgot

aragakiayase [12:37 PM]
rip

xiz [12:37 PM]
you and box reached out to me thats it

[12:38]
this is gonna be scumread so hard but unless its super dire im waiting for everyone to pm me first

[12:38]
dont tell anyone about that tho

[12:38]
yet

aragakiayase [12:38 PM]
lol i won't

[12:38]
honestly I don't think it's that alignment indicative

[12:38]
although I find it interesting that neither rzr/dlgn has talked to you

[12:39]
since they've been the most proactive about talking to people

xiz [12:39 PM]
yup

aragakiayase [12:39 PM]
idk what to think about it now but it might be good to look at later

xiz [12:40 PM]
dlgn went from town to soft scum but, idk

[12:40]
hes not a good d1 lynch

aragakiayase [12:40 PM]
he's moved up a bit towards town

[12:40]
but he seems very controlling which I don't like

xiz [12:40 PM]
hes over confident

[12:40]
this early

[12:40]
also

[12:40]
how da fuck has nobody else picked up on the rzr full reads list

[12:41]
like idk thats a big mafia sign

aragakiayase [12:41 PM]

https://twig.slack.com/archives/freezewars/p1449271613001693

[12:41]
oh rip that doesn't work

[12:41]
but dlgn is either dumb town or wolf

[12:41]
idk rzr seems like paranoid town again

[12:41]
he's playing almost the same as last game

[12:41]
which you weren't in but that's why I actually have him as town

xiz [12:41 PM]
oh

aragakiayase [12:41 PM]
he's trying really hard

xiz [12:42 PM]
how strong are you on that

[12:42]
like

aragakiayase [12:42 PM]
like

xiz [12:42 PM]
how confident are you on that read

aragakiayase [12:42 PM]
probably stronger town than most

[12:42]
probably my strongest read actually

xiz [12:42 PM]
okay ill reconsider

[12:42]
but still like

aragakiayase [12:42 PM]
he's very invested

xiz [12:42 PM]
that reads list is something you do as a mafia

aragakiayase [12:42 PM]
as wolf he tries to mislead people but I don't see that here

xiz [12:42 PM]
ive caught 3-4 mafia doing that

[12:42]
d1

aragakiayase [12:42 PM]
I wouldn't actually know because I've never seen someone do that before

[12:43]
but I see how that makes sense (I think?)

xiz [12:43 PM]
think of it like this

[12:43]
usually new-er mafia try to blend into town as best they can by trying to lead it, because they think "hey this newbie is leading and taking charge he isnt mafia lol"

[12:43]
but then when they post a full list of reads early d1 when people havent even spoken yet

[12:44]
usually doing that proves you are trying too hard

aragakiayase [12:44 PM]
rzr goes full tryhard as town though so yeah

xiz [12:45 PM]
well ill reconsider then

[12:45]
if that so then, i want to look at gradiant and tokzic then

aragakiayase [12:45 PM]
yeah

[12:45]
like I said both playing super utr

xiz [12:45 PM]
tokzic i think is town but

[12:45]
he needs to speak more

aragakiayase [12:46 PM]
how do you read toxzic

[12:46]
because I have no idea

[12:46]
the only game I played with him was the anime north one

xiz [12:46 PM]
its not really how i read him its what he says that tells

[12:46]
and him getting confused lol

aragakiayase [12:46 PM]
where yoshl hardclaimed wolf and toxzic refused to do shit and got mislynched

[12:46]
getting confused = more town?

xiz [12:46 PM]
well, that game was bullshit

aragakiayase [12:46 PM]
yeah

[12:46]
so it doesn't even count

xiz [12:47 PM]
and no confused =/= town

[12:47]
its how he reacts to confusion

[12:47]
by confronting it or side stepping it

[12:47]
idk why tokzic hasnt posted more but w/e

aragakiayase [12:47 PM]
oh

xiz [12:47 PM]
if i vote him its because i think he is town and he needs to speak more

aragakiayase [12:48 PM]
I asked this earlier and I don't remember if you answered, but why do you think V is town

[12:48]
last game his posts seemed super towny to me up until when I thought he slipped

[12:48]
and he was wolf

xiz [12:48 PM]
him shooting down dlgn's posts

[12:48]
and telling them how flawed they are

[12:48]
is towny to me

aragakiayase [12:49 PM]
does he do that as a wolf

xiz [12:49 PM]
it feels different

[12:49]
im more relating it to V play like, two years ago

[12:49]
okay so

[12:49]
if you really wanna catch scum

[12:49]
dont just read people based on their past

[12:50]
read them based on the questions they ask and answer

[12:50]
saying shit like "dlgn thoughts on rzr?" or whatever is dumb

[12:51]
but its the questions like "If _______ does this, what does it mean for you based on _______ since you think this? Okay so if thats not true then this guy is town because of ___________"

[12:51]
that might not make sense, but pretty much tl;dr adaptation of reads and always thinking of plan B

[12:51]
find who doesn't think of plan B

[12:51]
thats usually what i look for

aragakiayase [12:51 PM]
people who lock in are always red flags

xiz [12:51 PM]
no

aragakiayase [12:51 PM]
or rather

xiz [12:51 PM]
there is a difference

aragakiayase [12:51 PM]
they get my attention

xiz [12:52 PM]
i mean you can be confident and town

[12:52]
it depends on what they do differently if they are wrong

aragakiayase [12:52 PM]
but being unwilling to reevaluate

[12:52]
is what I was getting at

xiz [12:52 PM]
ya

aragakiayase [12:52 PM]
did you get a chance to read dlgn's pastebin convo with dbp

xiz [12:53 PM]
nop

[12:53]
where is that

aragakiayase [12:53 PM]
in thread but he also PMed me

[12:53]

http://pastebin.com/0L55D35F

Pastebin
dlgn / dbp dms - Pastebin.com (8KB)

[12:54]
he said that makes him think dbp is very strong town

[12:54]
I didn't read it too closely but I didn't see anything particularly interesting

[12:54]
and dbp hasn't done much

xiz [12:54 PM]
who was the other claim to dlgn

[12:54]
besides rzr

aragakiayase [12:55 PM]
wait claim?

xiz [12:55 PM]
[8:20]
I thought that you were a homeless guy, and you were trying to find your partner

[8:20]
And then you got 2 responses, leading you to doubt one of them: rzr

aragakiayase [12:55 PM]
I have no idea

[12:55]
brb 15 min

aragakiayase [1:03 PM]
back

xiz [1:05 PM]
hi

aragakiayase [1:06 PM]
oh I think the two responses thing is hypothetical?

[1:06]
I don't think dbp knows whether or not dlgn got two claims

[1:06]
or if rzr even claimed

[1:06]
but that is a possible reason for dlgn scumreading rzr

xiz [1:08 PM]
there is something very important that is telling about that phrase that i linked

[1:08]
if you can figure out what you are locked town for me

aragakiayase [1:08 PM]
this? https://twig.slack.com/archives/D0FU...49345317000174
Vincexiz
[8:20]
I thought that you were a homeless guy, and you were trying to find your partner

[8:20]
And then you got 2 responses, leading you to doubt one of them: rzr
Today at 12:55 PM

xiz [1:08 PM]
ye

aragakiayase [1:20 PM]
i feel like this gives a clue about dbp's alignment but idk yet

xiz [1:21 PM]
think outside the box

[1:21]
or betteryet outside the game

aragakiayase [1:30 PM]
oh hold on i think I remember something

[1:30]
time to go dig

[1:30]
i think charu said something similar

aragakiayase [1:40 PM]
i thought of this post but meh http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...11#post4380411
TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) The Werewolf Game

aragakiayase [2:14 PM]
idk I'm not seeing it I'll let it stew

aragakiayase [3:21 PM]
i pastebined our convo because dbp was asking but i forgot about this sorry :disappointed: https://twig.slack.com/archives/D0FU...49344282000066
Vincexiz
this is gonna be scumread so hard but unless its super dire im waiting for everyone to pm me first
Today at 12:38 PM

xiz [3:58 PM]
if grad flips scum you are lock clear for me

aragakiayase [4:05 PM]
Why are you willing to lock clear me in these situations

[4:06]
As town I will very strongly townread people but my tinfoil is always too strong

xiz [4:06 PM]
because xiz reasons

aragakiayase [4:07 PM]
Hmmm

aragakiayase [4:38 PM]
oh i see why cause i read thread ll

xiz [4:39 PM]
eeey gj

aragakiayase [5:59 PM]
off topic but who is afrobean

xiz [5:59 PM]
an old vet player

[5:59]
his policy

[5:59]
lynch all liars

aragakiayase [5:59 PM]
oh

xiz [6:01 PM]
im playing osu pm me if u need

aragakiayase [6:01 PM]
ok

[6:01]
this guy is literally a zenith alt

[6:01]
not actually but the similarities are everywhere

xiz [6:02 PM]
i had the same thoughts

aragakiayase [7:17 PM]
dbp and v just voted you

xiz [7:20 PM]
lol why because im playing osu

aragakiayase [7:20 PM]
from V

[7:20]
im not im voting xiz beecause he feels like he pocketed me and his reads have the veneer of fabricationm

[7:20]
and dbp because there was a kitb

[7:20]
now you're top wagon

xiz [7:21 PM]
idk im not gonna die today

[7:21]
so w/e

[7:21]
let em

aragakiayase [7:21 PM]
i want gradiant dead

[7:21]
over dlgn

xiz [7:21 PM]
then do something about it

V

bendetta [5:29 PM]
It shows you sent me two messages but my phone is not displaying them, please resend

xiz [5:30 PM]
read the game thread

[4:06]
imo gradiant

[4:06]
like last 10 posts

dlgn [4:06 PM]
his reaction wasn't even good, but it's hard to think he's a wolf

[4:06]
i didn't like him from the start

xiz [4:06 PM]
gradiant make a big oopsie

dlgn [4:06 PM]
and he didn't care for me

[4:06]
i asked about that

[4:06]
i don't see the slip tbh

[4:06]
he's kind of assuming you are town

[4:06]
that's implied when he reads what you are saying as a "joke"

[4:07]
without explicitly calling you town

[4:07]
but if you think that is a slip in some other way

[4:07]
i'm not sure what it is

xiz [4:07 PM]
hm

[4:07]
i think you need to re-read gradiants posts again

[4:08]
because the way you worded that makes you really fuckin suspicious

[4:08]
go back and read it then msg me

dlgn [4:08 PM]
??

[4:08]
super confused

xiz [4:08 PM]
read gradiants posts again

[4:08]
do it now.

dlgn [4:08 PM]
yeah i'm going

xiz [4:08 PM]
*in thread

dlgn [4:09 PM]
ohhhhhh

[4:09]
LMAO

[4:09]
LMFAO

[4:09]
HE SAID THAT WITH A VOTE PARKED ON YOU

[4:09]
HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[4:09]
GG

[4:09]
wtf is wrong with me LOL

[4:10]
i even said that in my question about what the slip is

[4:10]
hahahahahaha

xiz [4:10 PM]
I hope you know this makes you town-lean to scum-lean

dlgn [4:10 PM]
that's fine

[4:10]
hahahaha

xiz [4:11 PM]
ill prob be posting that later somewhere, depending on if we kill grad and what his flip is

dlgn [4:11 PM]
if he doesn't flip wolf >__<

[4:11]
i don't know how that happens

xiz [4:11 PM]
did you have me confused with someone

dlgn [4:12 PM]
nope not at all

[5:30]
seems as though he knew that gradiant knew that i was town

[5:30]
even though i clearly said im a wolf

[5:31]
i RATHER kill gradiant because im more confident in it over dlgn, but if grad flips wolf then im pretty confident dlgn is as well

DLGN

dlgn [3:25 PM]
xiz [2:55 PM]
[8:20]
I thought that you were a homeless guy, and you were trying to find your partner

[8:20]
And then you got 2 responses, leading you to doubt one of them: rzr

xiz [3:08 PM]
there is something very important that is telling about that phrase that i linked

[3:25]
i'm curious what this meant to you

xiz [3:59 PM]
hi

[3:59]
congratz on being person #5 to pm me

[3:59]
pretty much i think i know what you are doing

dlgn [3:59 PM]
eh you're like one of 3 I haven't talked with

[3:59]
and considering I have a vote on you and you seem to be reconsidering a lot figured I should talk with you

xiz [4:00 PM]
oh i havent really cared about you

[4:00]
lol

dlgn [4:00 PM]
you're not the first to think you know what I am up to when I myself don't XD

xiz [4:00 PM]
ive reconsidered because of someone else

dlgn [4:00 PM]
idk who that would be

[4:00]
botchi?

xiz [4:00 PM]
its very similar to something ive seen in the past

[4:00]
so thats why

[4:01]
and im not sure if i wanna tell rn

[4:01]
but pretty much i was convinced to get off of rzr

[4:01]
if gradiant flips scum then that will tell a lot

[4:01]
hes the best canidate imo, ill get a lot more info about who based on this

dlgn [4:01 PM]
aa contributed to that a bit but yeah, it's hard for me to see rzr as a wolf now

[4:01]
i agree tbh

[4:02]
but I feel silly agreeing with you lmao

[4:02]
a few hours ago I thought you were only pushing town but your reads changed very fast

[4:04]
and I went from rzr to you and i'm unsure where to go next, at this point i think I may have too many town so i'm trying to not clear people too strongly in my mind

[4:04]
especially considering that I hard defend my townreads, typically

xiz [4:05 PM]
i sometimes vote people who i think are town to get them to get them to talk more

dlgn [4:05 PM]
though I didn't know it at the time that may have been my biggest mistake wrt rzr lmao

xiz [4:05 PM]
read the game thread

[4:06]
imo gradiant

[4:06]
like last 10 posts

dlgn [4:06 PM]
his reaction wasn't even good, but it's hard to think he's a wolf

[4:06]
i didn't like him from the start

xiz [4:06 PM]
gradiant make a big oopsie

dlgn [4:06 PM]
and he didn't care for me

[4:06]
i asked about that

[4:06]
i don't see the slip tbh

[4:06]
he's kind of assuming you are town

[4:06]
that's implied when he reads what you are saying as a "joke"

[4:07]
without explicitly calling you town

[4:07]
but if you think that is a slip in some other way

[4:07]
i'm not sure what it is

xiz [4:07 PM]
hm

[4:07]
i think you need to re-read gradiants posts again

[4:08]
because the way you worded that makes you really fuckin suspicious

[4:08]
go back and read it then msg me

dlgn [4:08 PM]
??

[4:08]
super confused

xiz [4:08 PM]
read gradiants posts again

[4:08]
do it now.

dlgn [4:08 PM]
yeah i'm going

xiz [4:08 PM]
*in thread

dlgn [4:09 PM]
ohhhhhh

[4:09]
LMAO

[4:09]
LMFAO

[4:09]
HE SAID THAT WITH A VOTE PARKED ON YOU

[4:09]
HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[4:09]
GG

[4:09]
wtf is wrong with me LOL

[4:10]
i even said that in my question about what the slip is

[4:10]
hahahahahaha

xiz [4:10 PM]
I hope you know this makes you town-lean to scum-lean

dlgn [4:10 PM]
that's fine

[4:10]
hahahaha

xiz [4:11 PM]
ill prob be posting that later somewhere, depending on if we kill grad and what his flip is

dlgn [4:11 PM]
if he doesn't flip wolf >__<

[4:11]
i don't know how that happens

xiz [4:11 PM]
did you have me confused with someone

dlgn [4:12 PM]
nope not at all

[4:12]
i fully understood the implications of his joking phrasing

[4:12]
and knew that he was voting you

[4:12]
but somehow did not put the two together

[4:12]
which is incredibly embarrassing

[4:13]
my two comments:

i'm not crazy about gradiant and don't feel so good about the fact that he's the one voting with me on xiz but wtf part of what he said was a slip?!?


i don't see the slip tbh
he's kind of assuming you are town
that's implied when he reads what you are saying as a "joke"
without explicitly calling you town

[4:13]
I think I need to go for a walk haha

xiz [7:03 PM]
just realized you were from DM

[7:03]
have we played before

dlgn [7:03 PM]
i play all the time

[7:03]
you'd know

xiz [7:03 PM]
i think probably once

[7:03]
i usually play with sunfan

dlgn [7:03 PM]
greg is one of my favourite people from DM

xiz [7:03 PM]
ye

dlgn [7:03 PM]
i wish someone would sub out of this game

xiz [7:03 PM]
yo sick ill look out for you next time i play there

dlgn [7:04 PM]
and he would tell you all to fuck off

[7:04]
XD

xiz [7:04 PM]
lol

dlgn [7:04 PM]
but yeah

xiz [7:04 PM]
when greg started playing twg i used to read him so fuckin well and wreck his shit

dlgn [7:04 PM]
i tried to play the game going on right now

xiz [7:04 PM]
then he got good lol

dlgn [7:04 PM]
and will play g2 whenever that is

[7:04]
he's very good, always has read me well, and fooled me many times

xiz [7:04 PM]
i might join that, depending on when

dlgn [7:04 PM]
sure, i can send you a message just to ask

xiz [7:04 PM]
depends if i wanna osu or that

[7:04]
ye sick

[7:07]
i used to play on dm a lot more like a year ago but then people got so hardcore about it where some would swear on their child's life and it got kinda bm lol

[7:07]
its calmed down a lot thankfully

dlgn [7:07 PM]
haha yeah

xiz [7:07 PM]
at least, from what ive noticed

dlgn [7:07 PM]
i'm nice when I play DM, i promise

xiz [7:07 PM]
i might be :stuck_out_tongue:

dlgn [7:07 PM]
i have fun going ham in these games tho XD

xiz [7:07 PM]
oh me 2 dude

[7:08]
i never hold back lol

dlgn [7:08 PM]
haha good, hope you have fun this game

xiz [7:08 PM]
u2 m8

RZR

rzr [1:02 PM]
sup fam

xiz [1:02 PM]
congratz you are person #3 to message me

rzr [1:02 PM]
that's it?

xiz [1:02 PM]
yup

rzr [1:02 PM]
you're the last person for me to msg lol

xiz [1:03 PM]
literally nobody has bothered talking to me

[1:03]
which actually tells a lot

rzr [1:03 PM]
To be fair some might be intimidared

xiz [1:03 PM]
exactly

rzr [1:03 PM]
ted*

xiz [1:03 PM]
i feel as though the wolves are weak this game

[1:03]
wait wtf why are they intimidated i suck

rzr [1:03 PM]
I'd agree - but I think they have a strong leader

[1:03]
Nobody knows that

[1:04]
imo you're a vet - vets are intimidating lol

xiz [1:04 PM]
Thats a very wolfy thing for you to say lol

rzr [1:04 PM]
That I'd be intimidated by a vet?

xiz [1:04 PM]
so here is the deal

[1:04]
someone is vouching for you hard

[1:04]
im giving you the benifit of the doubt

rzr [1:04 PM]
oy vey

xiz [1:04 PM]
but here is the thing

rzr [1:04 PM]
Okay

xiz [1:04 PM]

https://twig.slack.com/archives/D0G0DUSAZ/p1449345832000014

rzr
I'd agree - but I think they have a strong leader
Today at 1:03 PM

[1:04]
that means that you know you have a strong leader

[1:04]
as it means you are confirming wolf

[1:05]
that usually is a huge slip for wolves

rzr [1:05 PM]
Oh yeah- I have little doubt that dlgn is a wolf (and at this point a bad one)
I also think the points raised on dbp are extremely valid

xiz [1:05 PM]
meaning your partner is someone like V

rzr [1:05 PM]
that being said

[1:05]
I also expressed thinking roundbox could be pulling it off again. After talking with him I was more convinced of his humanity

[1:05]
but a few others agree that a lot of distancing betwen dlgn and roundbox has gone down

[1:06]
and I meant that to say that if dlgn and dbp are wolves, there's only a few left out there to "lead the pack"

[1:06]
I hope that helps

xiz [1:07 PM]
(replied to you)

[1:07]
what specifically with RB

rzr [1:08 PM]
at this point or where I start5ed coming from?

[1:08]
nvm

[1:08]
either way - same answer

[1:09]
roundbox is the player I go back with the most - I am most intimidated by him.
He plays a great wolf game and even better town game.
Last game as a wolf he fooled everyone till the last minute, and he did that by "not" progressing the game, being quiet ITT, etc

[1:09]
Which, up until recently, was the same thing he's done thus far

xiz [1:10 PM]
good to know

rzr [1:11 PM]
I suppose

xiz [1:11 PM]
im keeping my thoughts about him private right now

[1:11]
for a reeeeeeeason

rzr [1:11 PM]
I don't think round is a wolf really any more - but I do stand by what I said about them having a good leader. If dap/dlgn were scum I'd find it hard to believe botchi was their 3rd partner.
But by no means do I outrule it

xiz [1:15 PM]
if you are scum

[1:15]
just know im giving you a pass for that

[1:15]
becuase thats like two big strikes of what you have done so far

[1:15]
besides giving a towns list read before people have even spoken yet

[1:15]
those usually are the signs of wolf, like 100%

rzr [1:16 PM]
Haha thanks
I wish I were, I prefer being scum, but like I was saying I'm horrible at it - my tell is "illogical logic." And I think I try to be overly analytical as town, hence my constant reads posts etc

xiz [1:16 PM]
whats concerning is how long its taking you to type this message

[1:16]
ah there we go long message

rzr [1:16 PM]
haha

xiz [1:16 PM]
never mind

[1:17]
stop editing messages its also incriminating

rzr [1:17 PM]
I have never edited a message

xiz [1:17 PM]
when you type, you backspace and re-edit

[1:17]
i dont mean editing after you hit send

[1:17]
like as you are typing

[1:17]
if you are hooman

rzr [1:17 PM]
Oh yeah, sorry haha, I'm at work and I work in a call center so it's like second nature lol

xiz [1:18 PM]
its a good way to spot da woof woof

[1:18]
ye all good

rzr [1:18 PM]
trying too hard to look prtty

TOKZIC

tokzic [4:08 PM]
you're town right xiz

xiz [4:09 PM]
no

[4:09]
O SHIT OOPS

tokzic [4:09 PM]
fuck

xiz [4:09 PM]
Congratz on being person #6 to msg me

[4:09]
although i think i missed person #4 because i cant count

[4:09]
now i need to check lol

tokzic [4:09 PM]
you liar you're totally town

xiz [4:09 PM]
so you might be 5

tokzic [4:09 PM]
i think you're #4 i've talked with privately

xiz [4:09 PM]
no dude really im a woof woof

tokzic [4:09 PM]
i haven't been abusing ootc too much yet

xiz [4:10 PM]
god i forgot how much i hate OOTT lol

[4:10]
so much stuff to filter through

[4:12]
yo

[4:12]
so who should we nightkill

tokzic [4:12 PM]
yeah so far i've talked with charu dolgin and rzr

[4:12]
you are the fourth

[4:12]
i think we should nightkill the space space because i hate redundancy

xiz [4:14 PM]
who is space space

[4:14]
blankey! isnt in this game

tokzic [4:15 PM]
so are you saying we should like

[4:15]
figure out who we hate and then target the room they'd go into

[4:15]
alright alright i dig it

[4:16]
i hate yoshl let's get him

[4:16]
where do you think he's hiding

xiz [4:16 PM]
hiding in the wifu neko loli orgy party prob

[4:16]
he didnt invite me wtf

[4:17]
yo

[4:17]
tl;dr

[4:17]
i think you are town

[4:17]
i think you should lead a bit

[4:17]
because you sitting back makes me think you are no longer town lol

tokzic [4:17 PM]
dude i posted a killer plan and nobody said anything about it

xiz [4:17 PM]
was it in slack

[4:17]
if so i skipped it

tokzic [4:17 PM]
ok v said "i'd like it better if two hobos claimed"

[4:18]
and i said "yes we could do that too"

[4:18]
and then that was the end of it

[4:18]
no it was in thread

xiz [4:18 PM]
oh wtf i missed that

[4:18]
gg me

[4:18]
cool so you are claiming a hobo

[4:18]
let me just nightkill-AW FUCK CANT NIGHTKILL

tokzic [4:19 PM]
don't worry if you want to kill me you can find me in the bathrooms

xiz [4:19 PM]
i think i said i was going to hide in the bathroom too

[4:19]
like yesterday

[4:19]
but idk ill prob go to the DD

tokzic [4:20 PM]
i really wish v wasn't clogging up the kidz zone

[4:20]
hobos get more useful the later in the game they keep freezeproof

xiz [4:20 PM]
is there a downside to hobo's publically claiming

tokzic [4:21 PM]
no lmfao

[4:21]
there is an upside to them holding off

[4:21]
and that is that wolves have more trouble spoofing bad reads

xiz [4:21 PM]
o shit never considered that

tokzic [4:21 PM]
but they definitely should both be on the table by d2

xiz [4:22 PM]
depending on how many people die prob

[4:22]
well actually

[4:22]
eeeeeh

[4:22]
if nobody dies, it might not be good

[4:22]
well

[4:22]
idk let me think about that

tokzic [4:22 PM]
yeah i can see where you're coming from with that

[4:23]
as long as they get their claims out before there's a risk of them dying

[4:23]
if one of them fucks up and gets killed before claiming that'd be awful

[4:24]
with my plan we could guarantee freezeproof status all the way to d3

xiz [4:25 PM]
i like that better then whatever else has been thrown out

tokzic [4:29 PM]
i'm one of the hobos

[4:29]
i'm going to take your advice

[4:29]
and start leading more

[4:30]
before the rules change i was kind of trying to bait a wolf into going for a claim

[4:30]
but it didn't take and now that wolves can hide in kidz zone it's kind of moot anyway

xiz [4:33 PM]
like you cant die in the night so

[4:34]
no harm in leading

[4:34]
like if there is 3 hobos then i'll reconsider you but as of now im fine with it

[4:34]
also i like your vote on gradiant

[4:35]
oh shit you made the claim public

[4:35]
i would have waiting till d2

[4:35]
lol

[4:35]
mostly because of all the shit that can happen at end of day

tokzic [4:36 PM]
i fucked up with dolgin

[4:36]
something he said in the slack was ambiguous

[4:36]
and sounded like both hobos had claimed to him

xiz [4:36 PM]
YO THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

[4:36]
i thought rzr and someone else

tokzic [4:36 PM]
dbp thought so too

[4:36]
i kind of wonder if he did that intentionally

xiz [4:36 PM]
thats also why i had my vote on rzr

tokzic [4:37 PM]
so i said to him privately WHAT BOTH HOBOS CAME OUT TO YOU?

[4:37]
and he was like "no dpb thought that though"

[4:37]
and i was like ".............."

xiz [4:37 PM]
so NOBODY came out to him

[4:37]
right

tokzic [4:39 PM]
YOU BET!!

[4:39]
dlgn [6:32 PM]
here's the part where I come clean as soon as possible: I said one had claimed to me in hopes that one finally would take me up on the offer, but none have :disappointed:

[6:32]
you were on my shortlist for possible HG's, though

[6:33]
i think I made that clear when I initially messaged you, lmao

xiz [4:40 PM]
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[4:40]
well that sucks lol

[4:40]
i would have been excited if one did

tokzic [4:41 PM]
because you're my hobobro and we would have caught a wolf?

xiz [4:42 PM]
no im a wolf

[4:42]
i just want to be the lone wolf

[4:43]
im the usurper role

tokzic [4:43 PM]
oh okay

xiz [4:44 PM]
try to see if you can get someone to claim hobo to you

[4:44]
pref who you think is a wolf but havent pinged em yet

tokzic [6:53 PM]
where

[6:53]
did you get the idea

[6:53]
that two people had claimed to dolgin

[6:54]
i'm trying to figure out where this thought originated

xiz [6:57 PM]
when dbp said so?

[6:58]
one sec let me pull up the quote

[7:00]
i cant find it but i remember DBP said to dlgn something like "when rzr and someone else came out to you"

[7:00]
god there are so many fucking messages

[7:01]
So, in regards to the dlgn/dbp pastebin:

[8:20]
I thought that you were a homeless guy, and you were trying to find your partner

[8:20]
And then you got 2 responses, leading you to doubt one of them: rzr

tokzic [7:01 PM]
yeah slack is really hard to check back on

xiz [7:01 PM]
its a whole pastebin

[7:01]
between dlg and dbp

[7:01]
where i foudn that

tokzic [7:01 PM]
can you link me that pastebin

xiz [7:05 PM]
sure hold on

[7:06]

http://pastebin.com/TUkkJDee

Pastebin
dlgn/dab - Pastebin.com (8KB)

tokzic [7:09 PM]
thanks

xiz [7:27 PM]
why storn

tokzic [7:28 PM]
no contributions

xiz [7:28 PM]
over grad?

tokzic [7:28 PM]
completely silent during the most eventful parts of the game

[7:29]
i don't think over grad

[7:29]
but absolutely over you

[7:29]
grad is weirder than storn

[7:29]
grad only shows up when he gets called out

xiz [7:30 PM]
that one pm he did in that pastebin said he is busy but thats about it

[7:30]
with all the people viewing the thread as guests i doubt it

[7:30]
as in, hes in there

[7:30]
like

[7:31]
i think grad over storn atm mostly because storn doesnt connect with anyone

[7:31]
while gradient does?

xiz [7:38 PM]
yo you here

[7:38]
@tokzic:

tokzic [7:38 PM]
sorry

[7:38]
bunch of things going on

xiz [7:38 PM]
im going to need to force to claim

[7:39]
if ya dont step in

[7:39]
zzzzzzz

[7:39]
this is not how i wanted d1 to go lol

tokzic [7:39 PM]
i liked the gradiant/storn/dlgn wagons

[7:39]
i'm confused what the fuck is going on

xiz [7:40 PM]
you gotta step in

[7:40]
otherwise im claiming in 10

tokzic [7:40 PM]
and why so many players are withholding votes

xiz [7:40 PM]
like its literally up to you at this point

[7:40]
i can only withhold so much

tokzic [7:40 PM]
are you telling me you're the other hobo

xiz [7:40 PM]
yes -.-'

tokzic [7:40 PM]
fucking

xiz [7:41 PM]
thats why im kinda freakin out over here

[7:41]
YO

[7:42]
who you pm'n

tokzic [7:42 PM]
i'm postin' not pmin'

[7:42]
yo

[7:42]
you are not

xiz [7:42 PM]
kk

[7:42]
im not what

tokzic [7:42 PM]
the only other claim

xiz [7:42 PM]
either you are fake or they are

tokzic [7:42 PM]
botchi claimed hobo too

xiz [7:42 PM]
da fuk

[7:43]
okay its in my hands now

DBP

dabackpack [1:34 PM]
who would you lynch today if you had to decide right now

xiz [1:52 PM]
grad prob

dabackpack [2:00 PM]
why

xiz [2:05 PM]
lack of content

[2:05]
at all

[2:05]
also congratz you are person #4 to pm me

[2:06]
no effort in moving the game along

[2:06]
no anything

dabackpack [2:08 PM]
I see

xiz [7:05 PM]
yo

dabackpack [7:05 PM]
hi

xiz [7:05 PM]
can you link me that pastebin wtih dlgn again

[7:05]
i dont feel like scrolling up

[7:05]
and i cant find it its crashing my browser

dabackpack [7:06 PM]
with me?

xiz [7:06 PM]
ye

dabackpack [7:06 PM]

http://pastebin.com/TUkkJDee

Pastebin
dlgn/dab - Pastebin.com (8KB)


xiz [7:06 PM]
ty