Could Gundams Be real? O.O

[purebloodtexan]

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UH, are you kidding? If someone sent anything looking like a gundam at a city, it would be bombarded with missles/ nukes if needed. Sorry; and if somehow we had something that could stop a nukek from totally crushing it; it would be better used on something smaller and more effecient. The same reason we wouldnt use a giant behomoth-like machine in Iraq is the same reason we wouldnt just throw a nuke at it. You cant control who does as easily. A giant ass robot is no where near needed in iraq. Any target we need to take out; we have thet airforce to send giant ass missles.

Seriously?

Seconded. Giant robots are anything but stealthy and stick out like a sore thumb. I think that we'll stick to infantry and armed vehicles.

Also note that a lot (although not all) of the battles in the Middle East seem to be street warfare. Not only would the robots be ineffective in this situation, but would cause a lot of civilian and innocent casualties, which goes against U.N. laws.

[ShAiOnEi]

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I am truly sorry for that. I am a critical thinker myself, I do make some grammatical mistakes, sometimes, therefore I have people like you to tell me these ideals so I can work on it.

Anyways, even if, your idea seems a little off due to the fact that technology isin't about finding origins of angels, we'd use the power from what we make through the technological advancements in, of course science. For examples making Robots. Yes we are working on that, yet we are also Not quite there yet. I would also suspect that we could advance in a way that we could clone people. Which we can yet is illegal. Id say cloning is a fabulous idea because then we could use them as something else instead of us humans. I am not trying to say clones aren't human but they are specimens.

Other than that, I'd still say using what we have we could make something so amazing and technological that the whole world would look at us for once and be like "Omg that is freakin awesome!" Just like Microsoft did in making "Windows". If we can make these "Things" we could possible have more people come to the country and more people means more money for the economy. This is merely a thought might I add.

So you're suggesting that clones' should fight our battles because they're lives won't be valued? I mean clones aren't actual human beings with emotions am I right? How about I create a specimen of you and then send you into war with a bomb strapped to your ass? Don't tell me that's what not what you meant because if you think about it you're talking about sacrificing lives so you don't have to sacrifice lives.

[LordTyriel]

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As I said. Clones aren't normal Human beings. think about it, yes they may be born the same way and made in the same way as humans, yet they are not the same as us due to them being "Clones" Therefore "Made" Therefore being a 'Specimen" I wouldn't care if you made a clone of me and blowing me up, Its not "Me" Its a 'Clone" Therefore it is merely like a Robot. It is made and eventually decays and dies. That is not, sadly, what I was trying to get to in my subject here.

I am trying to say that using them to pilot what we would use as "Mobile Suits" would give us a better chance of success and therefore not killing a "Life" but yet a 'Clones life". Also, I am not saying we should use HUGE Mobile Suits. That is why I pointed out it not being so Huge. Maybe you should make medium ones sorta of the size of maybe a apartment Building. And yes it may be like a sore thumb, yet if we equip it with thrusters or should I say, "Rocket-like Thrusters" they could move faster and probably be able to move faster so we can maybe dodge the enemies attacks. This is merely an idea.

[ShAiOnEi]

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As I said. Clones aren't normal Human beings. think about it, yes they may be born the same way and made in the same way as humans, yet they are not the same as us due to them being "Clones" Therefore "Made" Therefore being a 'Specimen" I wouldn't care if you made a clone of me and blowing me up, Its not "Me" Its a 'Clone" Therefore it is merely like a Robot. It is made and eventually decays and dies. That is not, sadly, what I was trying to get to in my subject here.

I am trying to say that using them to pilot what we would use as "Mobile Suits" would give us a better chance of success and therefore not killing a "Life" but yet a 'Clones life". Also, I am not saying we should use HUGE Mobile Suits. That is why I pointed out it not being so Huge. Maybe you should make medium ones sorta of the size of maybe a apartment Building. And yes it may be like a sore thumb, yet if we equip it with thrusters or should I say, "Rocket-like Thrusters" they could move faster and probably be able to move faster so we can maybe dodge the enemies attacks. This is merely an idea.

Explain to me how a clone is merely like a robot.

[foilman8805]

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I'm under the conviction that a life is a life no matter what form it takes, and I think a lot of other people are too.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

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Clones of anything have values equal to the sources of their origin. =)

[RoastedNoob]

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Picture in first post looks more like a Power Ranger thing. I think that's what it is. lol When all their vehicles would combine or w/e?

[ShAiOnEi]

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Therefore "Made" Therefore being a 'Specimen" I wouldn't care if you made a clone of me and blowing me up, Its not "Me" Its a 'Clone" Therefore it is merely like a Robot.

This statement right here shows how little value you have of another's life. You expect me to buy into your bull**** about sending a copy of yourself to die and say screw it it's not my life so who really cares? Do you even know how a clone is made they don't just magically appear inside a test tube ya know. People actually have to be involved give birth to these clones and watch them grow up as human war machines. This isn't advanced or civilized just downright crude and an abomination to mankind.

[LordTyriel]

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Yes let me explain how.

Over the past few years people have made "Clones" just not clones of people because obviously it is Illigal. Now as to why? Well you can guess why, theres someone who looks exactly like you out in the world who could do something and you could get in trouble for. No there was no point to that yet wanted to point that out.

My other point was that over the past few years they have done studies on them and have found that they would use Cloning as a way to help stop diseases and Other such Ideal Sicknesses. Now tell me, is that no different then using a clone for killing people or just using something for a test? Because we'd be using them for a test on the Mobile Suits if we ever made them.

[ShAiOnEi]

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Yes let me explain how.

Over the past few years people have made "Clones" just not clones of people because obviously it is Illigal. Now as to why? Well you can guess why, theres someone who looks exactly like you out in the world who could do something and you could get in trouble for. No there was no point to that yet wanted to point that out.

My other point was that over the past few years they have done studies on them and have found that they would use Cloning as a way to help stop diseases and Other such Ideal Sicknesses. Now tell me, is that no different then using a clone for killing people or just using something for a test? Because we'd be using them for a test on the Mobile Suits if we ever made them.

wtf are you talking about? I don't even think you understand the nature of my previous post. There is no FU**ING difference between a clone and a human none WHATSOEVER! They have the exact same status they are both people so it does not give you the damn right to freely test on a free-willed human being. I don't know about you but I believe every person deserves their natural rights and shouldn't be messed with just because you've been spawned by genetic manipulation.

[RoastedNoob]

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A clone will have the memories and everything of the original. It's an exact copy. It would have any rights the original would have.

[Relambrien]

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You seem to be misunderstanding what cloning does.

It essentially makes you a twin. Identical twins are DNA clones--they have the same DNA structure (bar any mutations). They both think, they both are independent, and they both develop differently based on their experiences.

When a clone is born, it immediately diverges from its "source human," if you will. Its environment is already radically different, and thus it will develop in a much different way. Clones are not exact copies of a person, only people with copies of a person's DNA. DNA does not decide everything; in fact, it decides comparatively little in a person's development. It determines a lot of physical traits, but personality, social development, and things like that are all exclusively determined by the person's environment.

Your clone could be nothing like you. It's an independent being equal to you. Assume you had a twin who grew up in a completely different house from you--that's your clone. The only similarity you share is your DNA, nothing else.

[LordTyriel]

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Hah listen those aren't MY words! Yes I typed them and all but i got that from other sources on the internet! If they could Legally do it they'd use cloning for THAT purpose! To obviously use it as a TEST! Don't you see? Obviously if you used your mind, scientists just want to save other peoples not the clones. Oh ya because obviously a clone is nothing compared to a real human being there is a difference! Or else you might as well just test **** out on REAL humans! "Oh lets do that" oh wait its against the LAW! Oops! Now you see that there is a difference. So please don't think I am joking nor trying to act stupid. this is real life were talking about. Obviously I know or else Id be shutting up and not continuing this.

Also, I do know how clones work and how they are made. And I said Made because they literally are made. Through splitting of the DNA strands. Now please tell me Im wrong.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

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LordTyriel, what you're doing is sending a certain type of human being different from yourself, which can be referred to as a race or nationality or w/e based on how you interpret the classification of their birth style, to a horrid environment. Very much analogous to how the Nazis forced the races that were "inferior" to them to concentration camps. You are sending the race of "clones" to "war/dangerous experiments", much like the Nazis sent "minor ethnic groups" to "concentration camps." That's wrong, to human standards.

A clone is a real human. =/

In relation to anime, animes such as Fullmetal Alchemist provide a moral as to how living mutants such as chimeras and homunculi are born unwillingly from experiments. They are lives, much like we humans are. The anime shows that it is wrong to just create a life with it's own conscience for the ultimate purpose of treating it like a slave.

Once again, clones are real humans, regardless of how they are made, or what you call "real" humans want to use them for. They have a right to their civil liberties and natural rights, much like we "real" humans do.

The term "CLONE" is not a term of inferiority, nor superiority.

We are one and the same. Humans.

[LordTyriel]

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You are in a way correct. Although my idea was merely to use them as yes soldiers yet in this way we have tons of them so think of cloning someone over 100 times. Its 100 of them although different in many ways ( mostly Mentally) You could train them and use them as soldiers. It is not like the Nazi's because obviously people agree to it before they get cloned. For examples this link here: http://www.globalchange.com/clonech.htm
This doctor allows people to be cloned and tells people how and pretty much tells them why its ok and a lot of other juicy info that you wanted so much to know.

Now about the ideal military, this is merely an Ideal I am not saying I would actually do it. but it is merely an idea because think of it. Clones, tons of them, theres hundreds of the same person. Tell me thats not useless! Its useful in a way that could be used either in a working way or in a military way. Now you could get them to work for you, which would be a good idea. or just as a military dog. Although Id suspect most people aren't like that. Obviously I can see that by people telling me that I am somehow being sorta like a nazi. Although I assure you I am not trying to do that I am telling you my ideal military or world. Just like using the technology that we have for military use as well.