The American Flag Comes... Second?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

Does that make sense, now?

No.

You're misunderstanding it. It's not meant to be a personal attack. It's a way of drawing attention to the issue by using seemingly offensive imagery in an attempt to institute a change. Whether or not the change is reasonable or not, does not negate the students' rights to use symbols such as this.

[Grandiagod]

Technically the flag being flown upside down is considered a distress signal.

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

It's not meant to be a personal attack.

So? It is. If you urinated on a picture of Mohammed because you just didn't like the guy, the Muslim faith is going to take offense.

Also, the students had no right to do that to the school flag. Were it their own, this would be a very different matter. In that case, I would find it kind of stupid, but not AS inflammatory (I have mixed feelings on flagburning).

But still, as Eyoshi pointed out, doing so only turns people away from their cause and angers people to lash out against them. There are loads of ways to protest, but putting the American flag upside down underneath the Mexican flag? That does nothing but make people mad.

There's nothing "seemingly offensive" about it; it's downright offensive and it doesn't do ANYTHING to help their side. And yeah, I know that the United States is better than Mexico, but I'll be damned before I happily allow someone to desecrate a symbol of this country like they did.

Afro, you need to understand that just because it's a symbol doesn't mean it doesn't carry meaning or emotion.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[JurseyRider734]

If they like Mexico so much, why don't they just go back?

[Grandiagod]

Because mexico sucks, and while they are all "VIVA LA RAZA" you couldn't pay them to go back to that sh*thole.

[Snapps]

That white kid on the left is all like rofl where the hell am i

[jewpinthethird]

Okay, I'm white as you can get, so people of Latin descent might take offense to what I have to say, but I grew up in a mexican community and a majority of my friends are mexican. So it isnt like I'm just talking out of my ass here.

Those pictures you see there are the actions of Americans.

Mexicans who act like this are usually third generation. I know plenty of first and second generation immigrants. Most of them speak very poor english and many of them are illegal. But they are some of the hardest workers you will ever meet. They understand and appreciate how lucky they are to be living in America. You would probably never see a first or second generation immigrant ever deface an American flag.

Third generation immigrants are full-blown Americanized, usually. They dont appreciate what their parents or grandparents did by coming to America. And they are spoiled (not like rich-kid spoiled though). And this isnt just the case with people of Mexican heritage. This pretty much goes for every ethnic group (European, Asian, African, Middle Eastern, etc.) I, myself, have pride in my roots.

For awhile I was all about Ireland and whatnot...until I went there. But my last name is from dutch heritage...so now I am embracing those roots. I mean, what does it mean to be American? That's so boring.

[Skikamukazi]

**** Mexico, the place is a ****-hole.

[AasumDude]

So is America, where the national debt has raised over a trillion dollars, the American dollar dropped over 30 cents to the Canadian one (in like only 10 years!), and the Capitalist wheel is spun by the blood and sweat of the workers, and half as many people vote for American Idol as they do their next President.

[esupin]

Originally Posted by AasumDude

and the Capitalist wheel is spun by the blood and sweat of the workers, and half as many people vote for American Idol as they do their next President.

I hate when people say that because people will vote hundreds and even thousands of times for American Idol. As long as they continue to show American TV shows and movies around the world, all is not lost. Last summer, I watched Ronin and Red Dragon while I was in China.

Edit- It's not like Mexico likes this either. They're actually growing concerned at the number of people leaving the country. Anyways, so says BBC World Service. Go NPR.

[Mindfields]

If you don't like being here
And you don't like the laws here
And you dislike it here so much that you want to dishonor this country's flag by flying it under another nations AND upside down
THEN GO THE **** BACK, MORONS.

[super-smashman]

Originally Posted by ckj846

The flag is upside-down under the Mexican flag. SO WHAT? We know we are a better country, [...] I'm neutral on this issue because honestly, I just don't care.

Rofl

gtfo my internet.

[dontcareaboutmyid]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

So? It is. If you urinated on a picture of Mohammed because you just didn't like the guy, the Muslim faith is going to take offense.

Actually, remember that there are no pictures of mohammed, except for those cartoons, so if you took a piss on those, they'd probably cheer you on.

/offtopicness

[Kilgamayan]

IF I KNEW WHO TO CALL TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, I WOULD

What people need to understand is that people have a right to be angry about the act just as much as the people have a right to perform the act in the first place. Telling either side they're doing the wrong thing is incorrect.

If patriots are really so angered by this insult, just insult the Mexicans back and claim that they hung the USA flag upside-down because, as stupid Mexicans, they don't know which way is up. Or something.

I can't wait until I go to Japan. Then I can hang their flag upside-down in protest of whatever I want and no one will be able to tell the difference. 8)

[evilbutterfly]

It's just a flag...

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[FishFishRevolution]

The great thing about America is that we're allowed to do whatever we want.

8 )

[mead1]

Amen

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Originally Posted by TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons

YEAH PEOPLE MIGHT GET THE IDEA THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS OR SOMETHING

THEY MIGHT EVEN PUT IT IN THE CONSTITUTION AND GIVE IT SOME KIND OF CATCHY NAME LIKE "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"

You fuckwads who actually have a problem with some people you've never met hanging a rectangle of fabric upside down under another rectangle of fabric should quit bitching and go finger yourselves and cry while watching The O'Reilly Factor.

[Moogy]

I hate America. Go Mexicans.

I endorse anything that degrades or insults America, Americans, or those who agree with America, to any extent.

In fact, I should hang an upside-down flag in my yard or something. Just to piss off all the rednecks (like most of you guys, apparently) who think there's some sort of meaning in a piece of ugly multicolored cloth.

Down with America.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

I'm leaning very close to Moogy's side except in a much more passive way.