TWG Turbo 38: Africa Feeble:mind Metaphor Game Thread

[star-crossed]

1/12

I am running late for work and am not off work until after day starts. However, you should hear from me eventually bc the death posts + night posts are subject to change as per thread OP and I don't want to be silenced.

@WV, consider if you want to share any further info on your card flip. Also please help us

I feel the WV vote was a path of least resistance because he was not here to defend himself, so I will be assessing individually for malice later on with that in mind. Freezin, your voting analysis better be chefs kiss cuz your end of day is not doing you any favors at first glance lol. Did you just figure may as well phone it in if the town isn't going to bother?

Saw multiple factually incorrect statements about my voting behaviour on the last two pages. I have never voted for anybody other than bugkid so far in the game.

Subaru - what "revelations" are you having? Having a really really hard time parsing your posts sorry man

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

1/12

I am running late for work and am not off work until after day starts. However, you should hear from me eventually bc the death posts + night posts are subject to change as per thread OP and I don't want to be silenced.

@WV, consider if you want to share any further info on your card flip. Also please help us

I feel the WV vote was a path of least resistance because he was not here to defend himself, so I will be assessing individually for malice later on with that in mind. Freezin, your voting analysis better be chefs kiss cuz your end of day is not doing you any favors at first glance lol. Did you just figure may as well phone it in if the town isn't going to bother?

Saw multiple factually incorrect statements about my voting behaviour on the last two pages. I have never voted for anybody other than bugkid so far in the game.

Subaru - what "revelations" are you having? Having a really really hard time parsing your posts sorry man

I had work and a prior commitment that sucked almost all my time so I did phone it in for sure.

That was a garbage EOD and I'm not trying to pretend it wasnt. The issue is I'm still at work and I still have things to do. the game just has unfortunately timing compounded by the fact it's 12 hours phases, so by the time I'll be free (Saturday), a ton of game time will have passed.

I promised some content though so I'll try to deliver after I get off work in like 3 hours

[FreezinIce]

Day 0

bugkid (1)- Wayward
botchi (2)- bugkid, raeko
subaru (1)- Xel
wayward (1)- freezin

Day 1

bugkid (1)- star
wv(4)- zenith, raeko. freezin, subaru

[FreezinIce]

Well it wasn't as helpful as I thought because 1) most of the dead people didn't vote. 4 dead voting opportunities and only 2 dead votes is kinda bad. And 2) no confirmed antitown to add to the votes is unfortunately


However it isn't a complete loss. Objectively speaking, me (lol) and bugkid look the worst here so it's somewhere to start pressuring for tomorrow

[FreezinIce]

More grammar mistakes by good old autocorrect. Never change

Unfortunately should be unfortunate

[FreezinIce]

Also a bunch of people are not voting which also makes things worse for wagonomics

[FreezinIce]

I misread something, raeko is actually at the same level as me and bug.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Day 0

bugkid (1)- Wayward
botchi (2)- bugkid, raeko
subaru (1)- Xel
wayward (1)- freezin

Day 1

bugkid (1)- star
wv(4)- zenith, raeko. freezin, subaru

Honestly I think this was a waste of time, I would have rather seen you fish for interactions and comment or highlight those that stood out from you, because this post tells me absolutely nothing tangible I can include into my own reads.

The only glaring thing is there is a stupid high chance there is a wolf in the WV vote wagon. If I had to order where I'm at with my current development, from wanting to vote -> okay with not voting--within that wagon:
Mellon
Freezin
Bug
Myself

I can expand/answer on this when I revisit the thread later on in the day (probably around day start), but for now I will leave you with:

Mellon went from a strong town lean from the convo between them and Star, to now I'm suspicious that they are beginning to slank and it's starting to become a bit more clear. Reminiscent of how I played d0, except it's d1 and there's still a lot of "I'm not quite sure, I don't knowww, I want to hear more from X Y and Z" without making any movement last phase. She just kind of dumped her vote, gave a halfhearted reason behind it, and slanked.

Freezin was toeing the line for a while for me, and still kind of is, but I think the waste of energy/time into certain avenues of exploring last phase (even this night phase) are not in-line with town, especially when we are in desperate need of a wolf hit.

Bug is on the rise the more they talk imo, and they should continue doing so. I'm actually not sure how I can word it, but the best I got is if VT is a role present in this game, I think bug would be the one mainly after posting the short reads list. idk what it is, but it just screams VT to me so I'm less looking at them for now.

Star is my strongest town read right now and I highly doubt that changes for the time being. The conversation between Mellon gave strong vibes, and multiple people has said Star held a good tone throughout the phases and I can't disagree with that.

Subaru is my only ?? read at the moment, mainly due to lack of posts albeit their posts have content in them, but it seems to be following their own agenda, and something ominous alluding towards "revelations" that haven't been spoken about yet. Most of what I've skimmed in iso seems to be mostly commentary and not many original thoughts or assertions being made on their end, which just has me on the fence about alignment, however I'm focused more on what I've said above this and Subaru can take the walk for now.

[star-crossed]

2/12

Ughh there is so much I need to say but I have no laptop. Fml

Freezin- In my opinion, what you provided with the votes is more information instead of analysis, so far. I think Zenith's conclusion that you are stalling is plausible, even though you are also busy with more than the granblue thing or whatever. I probably gave you too many brownie points D0 for going through the motions.

From my own viewpoint, the alignments of bugkid and Zenith are the most relevant to yesterday's votes l. I, while widely townread and with the backing of the confirmed town Xel, advocated a bug vote. And yet just about everybody preferred to go WV, against Xel (and my implicit preference.) Partly I am going to consider this my own fault, because maybe my focusing on my d0 point was unconvincing. One of the keys to unraveling yesterday is to take a stance on whether bugkid is a wolf and WV was pushed to protect them, or whether the wolves actually just were shrugging and letting town me fight town bug without wanting to be involved. WV is certainly a safer push all things being equal, since he was not here to even fight back.

I am open to the possibility of bug being town that I have being unfair to for kind of lacking their secret sauce early on in the game. I think Freezin being a wolf instead, for example, helps make room for that.

I brought up Zenith's name too because it felt like almost anybody could have voted Zenith yesterday and then it didn't actually happen. This warrants further scrutiny.

So far, it has been a hard game to be town in. Tomorrow, let's close the walls in on the wolves.

[FreezinIce]

Man it reminds me of old times, doing stuff like making a reads list or a wagonomics chart, then getting attacked over it. Nostalgia activated for sure

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Mellon went from a strong town lean from the convo between them and Star, to now I'm suspicious that they are beginning to slank and it's starting to become a bit more clear. Reminiscent of how I played d0, except it's d1 and there's still a lot of "I'm not quite sure, I don't knowww, I want to hear more from X Y and Z" without making any movement last phase. She just kind of dumped her vote, gave a halfhearted reason behind it, and slanked.

If it's reminiscent of how you played D0, and you're suspecting me of being a wolf, are you suggesting that you are also a wolf? or were a wolf on D0??

I wasn't trying to slank, I was around in the thread I just didn't know what to say because nobody else was really posting anything. I was waiting for another push or something to happen but nobody seemed to have a direction they strongly wanted to push for. I should have made my own push, listened to Xel and picked someone out of his wolf reads, probably bug since it would have been a good flip for Star as well. but I still had a bad feeling from WV's aggro appearance in D0 so I voted for him based off that, which was a bad move but oh well

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Bug is on the rise the more they talk imo, and they should continue doing so. I'm actually not sure how I can word it, but the best I got is if VT is a role present in this game, I think bug would be the one mainly after posting the short reads list. idk what it is, but it just screams VT to me so I'm less looking at them for now.

This read is kinda strange to me. Can you expand on why bug is giving you specifically VT (not just town) vibes?

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Man it reminds me of old times, doing stuff like making a reads list or a wagonomics chart, then getting attacked over it. Nostalgia activated for sure

this seems a bit over the top rofl nobody has attacked you. You said yourself that your analysis wasn't as helpful as you thought it would be. so I don't think it's strange for other people to have the same opinion.

You said reads list though! That would be good

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

This read is kinda strange to me. Can you expand on why bug is giving you specifically VT (not just town) vibes?

Their demeanor is making me feel like there isn't a role that is actively being thought about in the background or trying to play under guise/around it for why I'm mentioning VT specifically, and maybe that's even a poor way to explain it because originally bringing it up I wasn't sure how to efficiently word the read to better convey my point.

Just feels a bit like basic town play you know?

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

this seems a bit over the top rofl nobody has attacked you. You said yourself that your analysis wasn't as helpful as you thought it would be. so I don't think it's strange for other people to have the same opinion.

You said reads list though! That would be good

Yeah it was a bit over the top, more like I got traumatized in the past making lists and people would call them useless or suspicious and now I saw a vaguely similar situation so I brought it up to air out my long simmering grudge over that. I do realize my list wasn't that helpful but people are talking about it and it's sparked discussion so that's good

Anyways I will definitely have a reads list soon (tm)

[star-crossed]

3/12

Prayge

[the sun fan]

updating now

[the sun fan]

wait why did I say noon server I meant to say 11

[the sun fan]

alright, another hour it is then

[star-crossed]

4/12
Right ok well with that you will get a bit more from me.

Where to even start when I have 15 minutes on a phone and my brain is halfway to the conspiracy board meme or whatever.

I know Subaru wanted my updated cohesive thoughts, along with raeko's. I did not see raeko address this. I will do so provided that I am allowed to continue to post.

Subaru, you had some logic with me being tied to raeko because of our voting, but I have not voted the same way as raeko at all. You put out this logic about half an hour after you were in a conversation with me where I asked you to go back and read where I left the thread d0 with no vote and you claimed you reread this. I find it very difficult to track how you are coming to your conclusions and so I am a bit of a loss for how to determine what role pm is behind it. I am going to search my soul for how to find the essence of the pop tart I guess.

[star-crossed]

5/12

Maybe we can at least conclude that Pop tart is less likely a wolf with bugkid specifically because he should be able to differentiate between what they are doing and what I am doing a bit better then?

The other thing I have not addressed very well is the tide turning against raeko in the thread. I don't find Zenith's attack there very compelling if I am being honest, but I can follow how the PoE led him there I guess. bugkid otoh seems to have a visceral bad reaction to raeko going for WV with limited reasoning. It did not really hit me in the same way again because I didn't think raeko was trying to I guess appear to be making a good vote, it seemed more like she was trying to get final interactions to make the vote she felt best about. That's at least the positive way of framing it. I am not necessarily right to.

[the sun fan]

alright stop posting for real this time