TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[Vendetta21]

interesting to note about you xelnya is that you jumped on gradiant near the end, is that correct?

[Vendetta21]

i can understand storns vote because it was self-pres but you did it while other people were theoretically still another option, what inspired this

[Vendetta21]

you actually posted nearly simultaneous with storn and 20 minutes previous you said in slack

"
aragakiayase [6:23 PM]
we are not lynching xiz today

tokzic [6:23 PM]
i like a storn lynch

​[6:23]
better than a xiz lynch

xelnya [6:24 PM]
I could get on board with that"

so why did you shift so suddenly to hammering gradiant when storn was potentially an option

[Vendetta21]

nope i cant find you mentioning gradiant once

[Vendetta21]

in fact the only suspicion i see you having other than white noise posting is storn, that was the only lynch you could get behind and you turned away from it at phase end when the possibility was still there

[Vendetta21]

what told you to turn away from it? lack of support from tokzic? very curious

[Vendetta21]

xiz what was your plan that was ruined?

[dLGN]

backpack is obvious town

how many times do I have to tell you all

[dLGN]

just heard the mafia didn't kill anybody last night l0l

[dLGN]

get fucked mafia

that means you, [twgv]xiz[twgv]

[dLGN]

xiz

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Was your lack of self-esteem at the beginning of this phase entirely fabricated?

EEEYYY questions finally!

Yes.

If so, why was your focus in our chat about trapping charu over focusing on one of the people who is putting you into this position of being questioned?

'Trapping' charu isn't correct at all. It was to bring anyone lurking out, for example, charu (and others who were not talking) Pretty much to see who steps in with one of those one liner posts and doesn't post for another page or something. He happened to be the first guy I saw spectating the thread besides sunfan lol

Why did you last night misrepresent that everyone wanted to get you lynched when that was clearly not the public opinion and people are still reticent about it?

I honestly thought you and (was it DBP?) were pressuring me so much that i had to claim to clear myself. Little did I know that someone else claimed to tokzic. And ofc this happens 15 min before deadline because i was playing osu prior. (I might still have that recorded for proof if thats even needed)

If, I, someone who you thought at the time was human, was the one having the most problems with your plan, then why did you hold onto it for so long if the point was that it was a trap? I was questioning you well before Charu voted for you.

What do you mean? Do you mean the point where you started questioning me a lot or during D1?

[dLGN]

wait storn claimed to go into the kidz zone but really didn't?

i would have loved to see V die =/

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

xiz what was your plan that was ruined?

tl;dr version:


- Look through tokzic's and my logs. I notice him being very towny at the start in slack and comment on it. I ask him to lead.

yo

​[4:17]
tl;dr

​[4:17]
i think you are town

​[4:17]
i think you should lead a bit

​[4:17]
because you sitting back makes me think you are no longer town lol

tokzic [4:17 PM]
dude i posted a killer plan and nobody said anything about it

xiz [4:17 PM]
was it in slack

​[4:17]
if so i skipped it

He later claims hobo to me, then asks if im a hobo. I say i'm a wolf.

tokzic [4:41 PM]
because you're my hobobro and we would have caught a wolf?

xiz [4:42 PM]
no im a wolf

Then... my plan was this:

no im a wolf

​[4:42]
i just want to be the lone wolf

​[4:43]
im the usurper role

tokzic [4:43 PM]
oh okay

xiz [4:44 PM]
try to see if you can get someone to claim hobo to you

​[4:44]
pref who you think is a wolf but havent pinged em yet

However he never, ever ever got back to me on this. I honestly thought he read me as the other hobo with that soft.

Also:

"The Circle of Xiz"

If xiz acts green, he is red
If xiz acts red, he is blue
If xiz acts blue, he is green

I'm sure all of you can figure out games where I have done exactly that.

[Xiz]

He didn't let me know about it till here:

xiz [7:38 PM]
yo you here

​[7:38]
@tokzic:

tokzic [7:38 PM]
sorry

​[7:38]
bunch of things going on

xiz [7:38 PM]
im going to need to force to claim

​[7:39]
if ya dont step in

​[7:39]
zzzzzzz

​[7:39]
this is not how i wanted d1 to go lol

tokzic [7:39 PM]
i liked the gradiant/storn/dlgn wagons

​[7:39]
i'm confused what the fuck is going on

xiz [7:40 PM]
you gotta step in

​[7:40]
otherwise im claiming in 10

tokzic [7:40 PM]
and why so many players are withholding votes

xiz [7:40 PM]
like its literally up to you at this point

​[7:40]
i can only withhold so much

tokzic [7:40 PM]
are you telling me you're the other hobo

xiz [7:40 PM]
yes -.-'

tokzic [7:40 PM]
fucking

xiz [7:41 PM]
thats why im kinda freakin out over here

​[7:41]
YO

​[7:42]
who you pm'n

tokzic [7:42 PM]
i'm postin' not pmin'

​[7:42]
yo

​[7:42]
you are not

xiz [7:42 PM]
kk

​[7:42]
im not what

tokzic [7:42 PM]
the only other claim

xiz [7:42 PM]
either you are fake or they are

tokzic [7:42 PM]
botchi claimed hobo too

[Vendetta21]

who among botchi and tokzic then

[Vendetta21]

you are so hot right now that your only defense is figuring out who put you in this position

[Xiz]

Either A:

Tokzic ignored/missed my plan to try and find a fake hobo and missed my softs to him

OR B:

Tokzic withheld this information until end game, and botchi just went to him because this is his first game and thought it was a good idea as a newbie move

[Xiz]

My gut is telling me tokxic because he withheld information that put me in this position. I honestly would be fucking shocked if botchi is fake being his first game. I keep saying that but I have never met someone who trys out TWG and pulls that stunt

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Xiz

My gut is telling me tokxic because he withheld information that put me in this position. I honestly would be fucking shocked if botchi is fake being his first game. I keep saying that but I have never met someone who trys out TWG and pulls that stunt

this is an extremely good point and something i hadnt considered