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10-21-2018, 11:32 PM | #1 |
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The Trump Administration Is Trying to Get Rid of People Who Are Transgender :(
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10-21-2018, 11:35 PM | #2 |
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10-21-2018, 11:44 PM | #3 |
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10-22-2018, 07:28 AM | #4 |
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if you look up in the sky you can see the giant eraser
:P fo real doh I don't think anyone should get their rights taken away, but I do believe certain things need to change. For one you can get jail time in certain places for using the wrong pronouns. Completely stupid. Correct them and move on? What if was an accident? Nope! Jail time! What about the people that take advantage of this? hmmmm also: co co cos cos coself en en ens ens enself ey em eir eirs emself he him his his himself she her her hers herself they them their theirs themself xie hir ("here") hir hirs hirself yo yo yos yos yoself ze ve zir vis zir ver zirs ver zirself verself what the fuck is this no
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a quick google search easily discredits this. jail time is a huge stretch. possibly having someone press charges on you for repeatedly misgendering them? yeah, that's a possibility if you're canadian. (possibly important clarification: someone could charge you for harassment if, despite them correcting you repeatedly, you still choose to misgender them) i don't mean to come off as harsh as i am. i've just had to sit in on people yapping this bs for a while, and it's frustrating. if you want to have an honest and fruitful conversation about pronouns, then the ffr forums is probably not the best place. airing your grievances against custom pronouns is definitely not appropriate in a thread about the trump administration attempting to legally nullify transgender folks. it's also not that big of a deal to be respectful of others and refer to them the way they like, so i don't understand how you can be so annoyed by this.
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I have always been respectful of people but I will not call someone "zir" or some other silly thing I just use their name or walk away since I don't go out of my way to hurt people. What's wrong with him and her? If a man wants to be a woman would he then not be a her? Another issue I have with all of this is that people have gotten in trouble or fired for refusing to use their pronoun. As long as someone is not a asshole about it, no one should be fired for that. I don't see your post as harsh at all.
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So, many transgender people do use him or her if they identify as a man or woman, respectively. But some people identify as neither a man or a woman, or as parts of both. For them, him or her does not adequately express how they identify. Because the English language uses gendered pronouns, there isn't a good way for those people to refer to themselves, so they're making up pronouns to fill in the gap. Is it a perfect solution? No, but I think we should let them try. Perhaps in the future when it's more socially accepted to not be cisgendered, we'll have a standard set of pronouns outside of him and her. |
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10-22-2018, 08:35 AM | #8 |
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can someone tl;dr this, it's quite literally the longest article I've ever seen in my entire life.
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10-22-2018, 08:59 AM | #9 |
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Yeah sure
It pretty much is this: "We gonna change Title IX back to strictly male or female with no in-between unless genetically proven you're not." Also it would change how the law sees the LGBT community as their rights would be forfeit (Like choice of bathrooms, ect.) Ripperonies, 2020 where you at?
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10-22-2018, 10:02 AM | #12 |
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Please show me even one single example of someone getting jail time for using the wrong pronouns.
People are so gullible jfc. Sometimes people lie on the internet to advance their own agendas and it's kinda scary how many brainless people just lap it up |
10-22-2018, 11:40 AM | #13 |
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It's astonishing how little people seem to actually understand the science behind this sort of thing. The basic barely accurate biology they teach in schools is very clearly doing more harm than good at this point. I think people honestly believe that your sex is actually just determined by "Whether you get an X or Y chromosome from the dad"
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10-22-2018, 12:26 PM | #14 | |
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I do believe that, yes
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10-22-2018, 01:37 PM | #15 | |
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10-22-2018, 12:01 PM | #16 |
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Here's a nice explanation of why this sort of thing is hilariously anti-science, in easy to understand terms
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10-22-2018, 03:08 PM | #17 | |
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how big a chance is this "usually"
how many people with gender issues are gauvedoches or any other grey-area-gender? sure there is a possibility for this to happen, but how big is this chance
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10-22-2018, 04:45 PM | #18 | |
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Nothing against trans from me. That post dev linked is just something I could make up though; any non-scientific article or post should cite trusted information/experiments, otherwise it's just a matter of "Do you believe what I know or do you not ?" and I don't, and you shouldn't either (unless you actually are educated properly on the subject). |
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10-22-2018, 07:55 PM | #19 |
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Sorry you're too stupid to use google
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10-22-2018, 08:18 PM | #20 |
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I believe the biology elements she mentions in her post (specific hormones production during certain development stages + their effect on organs) are not common knowledge and that therefore she should provide sources. If you believe that people without that level of education on biology should understand everything she said by googling then hey you can argue that. Calling me stupid doesn't do much though.
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