Should drugs be illegal?

[Vanilla Mnm]

I've had this discussion with a lot of people, and I don't do drugs, but I've always thought that every drug should be legal. You're not harming anybody but yourself, SELLING drugs should be illegal, not using. ;\

what do you think?

Also, think of everything you can get arrested for, I can't think of too many things you can get arrested for besides using drugs where you aren't harming someone else in some way.


Also a question from Dossar to discuss.
If illegal drugs were made legal, would that lower gang activity?

[AsphyxZero]

I don't use them (I can't lol), but I do think they should be legalized TO SOME EXTENT. Obviously, drugs such as cocaine/heroin/anything made synthetically and has severe side effects shouldn't be legalized.

Nothing wrong with marijuana and shrooms though.

[DossarLX ODI]

I'll leave this question here:

If illegal drugs were made legal, would that lower gang activity? Discuss.

[Vanilla Mnm]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I'll leave this question here:

If illegal drugs were made legal, would that lower gang activity? Discuss.

lol, I'll put that question on the OP. I don't think it would. Most people aren't in gangs JUST for selling illegal drugs. It's a lot more than that, I think.

[Izzy]

If we considered less things to be crimes then there would be less crime.

[Shadowcliff]

Originally Posted by Izzy

If we considered less things to be crimes then there would be less crime.

And that guy is as tall as I am, if I were a little shorter.

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[MP3 player]

Ugh god... Listen here... Drugs should be legalized but they will never be legalized.. Wanna know why? Becuz the government makes stupid decisions.. Wanna know why alcohol is legalized??? Becuz the government taxed alcohol and now they make money when they sell it.. Now your probably saying to yourself.. Why dont they just tax weed??... The answer is.. WHY DONT THEY! The government somtimes makes decisions without thinking and sometimes they just dont make any since...

And thats MP3 player's Fun Fact of The Day!

[Superfreak04]

They don't tax weed because they know that weed is already available as is. People can sell weed without tax which means businesses who sell weed from a tobacco store won't get much business if a person can get the same amount of weed from someone else, makes sense?

[MP3 player]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

They don't tax weed because they know that weed is already available as is. People can sell weed without tax which means businesses who sell weed from a tobacco store won't get much business if a person can get the same amount of weed from someone else, makes sense?

No... Not really..

Im preety sure that the only reason they dont legalize Mirajuana is becuase our government is STUPID! Have you thought about that?? Alcohol is available everywhere and if the government hadn't taxed it, then it would be ILLEGAL... Think about this.. Alcohol is proven that it is worse than cocain and weed... So with that imformation, why is it still legalized?? Because the government dosn't care because they've taxed it and there making profit.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by MP3 player

No... Not really..

Im preety sure that the only reason they dont legalize Mirajuana is becuase our government is STUPID! Have you thought about that?? Alcohol is available everywhere and if the government hadn't taxed it, then it would be ILLEGAL... Think about this.. Alcohol is proven that it is worse than cocain and weed... So with that imformation, why is it still legalized?? Because the government dosn't care because they've taxed it and there making profit.

That goes hand in hand with what I just said. They tax it to make profit. Yet people aren't gonna buy from stores because they can get it cheaper without tax. DERP?!

[MP3 player]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

That goes hand in hand with what I just said. They tax it to make profit. Yet people aren't gonna buy from stores because they can get it cheaper without tax. DERP?!

Opps nvm that makes since. lol.

[gnr61]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

They don't tax weed because they know that weed is already available as is. People can sell weed without tax which means businesses who sell weed from a tobacco store won't get much business if a person can get the same amount of weed from someone else, makes sense?

lol

[RB_IcePh0enix]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

No, I've smoked K2 which is synthetic weed and it's legal.

Let me just say that K2 is a very different substance than weed. It's not nearly as healthy (or in my opinion, pleasurable) as weed. People have actually overdosed and been sent to the hospital on weed, plus it's really bad for your lungs.

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

They don't tax weed because they know that weed is already available as is. People can sell weed without tax which means businesses who sell weed from a tobacco store won't get much business if a person can get the same amount of weed from someone else, makes sense?

You have to realize that street weed prices are very inflated, and very much based on your local area. Something that costs you $25 in DC might only cost you $15 in Southern California. Regardless of what you're paying, dealers are making a lot more money than the amount the weed is actually worth. Once weed is legalized, the prices will likely decrease significantly, and the illegal weed business will die out because it won't be nearly as lucrative.


Anyways, here's my two cents:
All drugs should be legalized, regulated, and taxed by government. Harder drugs should be relatively expensive, and people who are found doing something violent or dangerous while intoxicated should be sent to rehab and possibly jail. Rehab centers should be socialized and drug addicts should be able to check into rehab centers, regardless of how much they can pay. All of this should help to eliminate drug cartels, the violence surrounding the illegal drug trade, overcrowded prisons, and hopefully help out poorer areas that struggle with drug addiction.

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Oh jesus, MP3 came and stupid'd the thread.

[Sullyman2007]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

I've had this discussion with a lot of people, and I don't do drugs, but I've always thought that every drug should be legal. You're not harming anybody but yourself, SELLING drugs should be illegal, not using. ;\

When you use drugs it effects a lot of people, actually. From the person who sold it to you, to the person who sold it to him, his friend, that local gang, drug trafficers and their families, and drug cartels in other countries who use the money to manufacture weapons so they can expand.

Also a question from Dossar to discuss.
If illegal drugs were made legal, would that lower gang activity?

If you were a drug lord and the cash crop you sell was made legal would you stop making and selling it? I wouldn't.

inb4 prohibition; that was a completely different scenario where people were manufacturing cheap moonshine in their backyards. It wasn't a cartel.

[Superfreak04]

Haha, and I'm not saying what I said is true, it's just a guess.

[Patashu]

we should build a giant robot that hunts down and kills people who smoke weed and drink alcohol

sullyman: so where are all the alcohol kingpins? notice they all vanished after the prohibition ended. derp

[MrRubix]

On the plus side, legalizing drugs would remove a lot of the premium that comes with harder-to-acquire items and allow it to be taxed and regulated. You'd probably see a lot fewer drug-transaction incidents (robbery/death/assault/etc). You don't exactly see people killing each other over a bottle of Tylenol when we can get it on the cheap at the local drugstore, now do we? Furthermore, fewer people in jail means less burden on taxpayers and fewer children suddenly forced to get by without parents (who would then be more likely to commit crimes).

Sounds pretty good, but the problem with harmful drugs is that they're, well, harmful. Unlike with alcohol, it's pretty hard to define a "responsible heroin user" when such a drug really screws you up and creates a physical addiction that is painful to break. What good could come from legalizing something like that? Simple law of supply and demand: Make something cheaper, and more people will buy it. If you legalize drugs, you're going to see more people using them. It doesn't exactly add much value to society.

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

On the plus side, legalizing drugs would remove a lot of the premium that comes with harder-to-acquire items and allow it to be taxed and regulated. You'd probably see a lot fewer drug-transaction incidents (robbery/death/assault/etc). You don't exactly see people killing each other over a bottle of Tylenol when we can get it on the cheap at the local drugstore, now do we? Furthermore, fewer people in jail means less burden on taxpayers and fewer children suddenly forced to get by without parents (who would then be more likely to commit crimes).

Sounds pretty good, but the problem with harmful drugs is that they're, well, harmful. Unlike with alcohol, it's pretty hard to define a "responsible heroin user" when such a drug really screws you up and creates a physical addiction that is painful to break. What good could come from legalizing something like that? Simple law of supply and demand: Make something cheaper, and more people will buy it. If you legalize drugs, you're going to see more people using them. It doesn't exactly add much value to society.

I think this goes back to parental influence. Honestly I think it would be much better if a parent just let his/her kid try out something if it's available (like trying a cigar or alcohol to get rid of curiosity) while they're with them so that way the kid won't overdo it. Abstinence isn't really the best thing to teach in my opinion.

Input anyone?

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I think this goes back to parental influence. Honestly I think it would be much better if a parent just let his/her kid try out something if it's available (like trying a cigar or alcohol to get rid of curiosity) while they're with them so that way the kid won't overdo it. Abstinence isn't really the best thing to teach in my opinion.

Input anyone?

Abstinence is often a completely awful approach to things... the better approach, as we've seen empirically, is education. If you're going to have sex, at least be safe by doing such and such. If you're going to drink alcohol, at least be safe by doing such and such.

The problem is that there's no safe "such and such" to apply to certain hard drugs. Some drugs just cause extreme damage and are really hard to justify in terms of legalization.