Music Piracy - Corporations infringing on your rights.

[ultimategamer]

Um, it's perfectly legal to download an mp3 of a song that you have on a legal cd. It's totally legal to make 800 copies of your favorite cd if you want.

Actually I believe that you can download anything you want, but you're supposed to delete anything you don't own the rights to within 24 or 48 hours after downloading it (you know, demo the product ). At least that's how it works with game ROMs, I would assume the same to be true for music, or at least something similar.

ok, for one dling stuff and deleting it w/in 24 or 48 hours is a myth. Its not like you can take a gta 3 from best buy and give it back w/in a day and say you were demoing it. illegal.

for 2, this is one of the more contraversial topics. The way the law is worded you are allowed to have backup of the media you own, however the trick here is that you hafta make the backup copies yourself. For example, if you own a video game, you can't dl a rom of the net thats illegal, but you can rip your own roms and store it on your computer. The same thing goes for music. You can make 12783312 copies of a music cd, however you must copy them yourself; you cannot dl other people's backup copies off the net. I could bring up the law itself but its a big hassle and i don't really wanna go through it.

[dontcareaboutmyid]

sure its a myth, but it works

[altairian]

ah yes but then we get in to the fun "what if"s like, what if you aren't able to copy the cd yourself so you have a friend make the backup for you and give it to you? legal or no? hehe =)

[Arch0wl]

Squarebear seems to have a pretty strong take on this.

The thing I hate about the RIAA, is they are just defending the big music producers.

Mainstream.

MTV trash.

They absolutely don't care about ANYTHING in the electronic genre at all (EXCEPT MAYBE PAUL OAKENFOLD AND DJ SAMMY AND PAUL VAN DYKE OMG MG OMG OMG OMG`1!111!!!11), and they especially don't care about the underground scenes(i.e. anything not on mtv). You can pirate any underground music you want but HO HO HO download a Britney Spears song and now they're MEGA-RIAA, WITH LASER BEAM TURRETS STATIONED ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO SPIT OUT LAWSUITS LIKE NO TOMORROW

[zajac]

ya.....if we dont buy cd's from...ohhh.... britney spears...for example.... she will not be able to afford an SX5 Jet....she will have to get an SX4 Jet.....that one doesn't have remote for the surround sound DVD system...... poor britney...THAT is why we MUST buy cd's from artists...........................................

[Moogy]

At least that's how it works with game ROMs

No, no it's not. It's completely illegal to download ROM images, regardless of whether or not you own the original game. The "24 hour rule" is a bunch of bullshit. The only way you can legally own a ROM image is if you have dumped it yourself.

Sorry, I had to correct that glaring bit of misinformation.

[zajac]

ROM

hahaha..... Really Old Men.... i came up with that myself................................................

[altairian]

At least that's how it works with game ROMs

No, no it's not. It's completely illegal to download ROM images, regardless of whether or not you own the original game. The "24 hour rule" is a bunch of bullshit. The only way you can legally own a ROM image is if you have dumped it yourself.

Sorry, I had to correct that glaring bit of misinformation.

heh sorry about that, i guess i should know better than to believe a ROM site (that has been in existence for a long time so the guy that runs it obviously knows what he's doing) when i read that 24 hour thing. Ah well, i think i'll just hide in the corner now before i make myself look even more dumb. :X

[Freak83]

I was sitting in my keyboarding class the other day and my teacher gave the grade 11's (there's some 10's in our class too) an assignment to do on a song. We have to analyze it. When we found out that we needed the artists actual CD we all started complaining because we all just use Kazaa. Sheesh, I have to actually buy a CD or borrow one from a friend just to do this project.

(Mind you there has to be at least 3 songs on the cd that have at least 1/3 of the song done by piano.)

[hydrojakep]

They sue you for 10000 dollers (for example).

The artists get as much money as if u downloaded it (0 dollers)
Sueing people is bullcrap and they should quit.

[hydrojakep]

ya.....if we dont buy cd's from...ohhh.... britney spears...for example.... she will not be able to afford an SX5 Jet....she will have to get an SX4 Jet.....that one doesn't have remote for the surround sound DVD system...... poor britney...THAT is why we MUST buy cd's from artists...........................................

dude.... thats from south park.

[Brainmaster07]

Squarebear seems to have a pretty strong take on this.

The thing I hate about the RIAA, is they are just defending the big music producers.

Mainstream.

MTV trash.

They absolutely don't care about ANYTHING in the electronic genre at all (EXCEPT MAYBE PAUL OAKENFOLD AND DJ SAMMY AND PAUL VAN DYKE OMG MG OMG OMG OMG`1!111!!!11), and they especially don't care about the underground scenes(i.e. anything not on mtv). You can pirate any underground music you want but HO HO HO download a Britney Spears song and now they're MEGA-RIAA, WITH LASER BEAM TURRETS STATIONED ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO SPIT OUT LAWSUITS LIKE NO TOMORROW

And we all know anything played on MTV absolutley sucks, so what's to worry about? MY friends dowloaded 120 gigs (27,000 songs) off kazaa, but he turns his file sharing off and only d/ls good music. Nothings ever happened to him. Even if you are an idiot and aren't safe about things, theres still a what.... 1/1,000,000 chance you're going to get caught?

[jewpinthethird]

Turning off your share option does nothing.

The RIAA has put out Mp3's onto KaZaA, you try to download it, and they get your iP.

[PALEE]

I have read at some RIAA webpage that they sue people with an "excessive" amount of download songs. So if you have anything less than, lets say, 10 gigs downloaded the RIAA are not going to be going after you. I believe the term "bigger fish to fry" applies.

[Varia]

It should be alright to download and listen to music for personal use. To burn CD's and sell them to a friend is not alright.
Making money off of other people's (artistic) work=not okay
Enjoying other people's (artistic) work=fine
The music industry itself is just a whore. They use singers and bands as their pawns to make money. It is stupid that the artist doesn't make the most money from their work. On top of that, their work costs a ridiculous amount. Also the way the RIAA do things is not legit, so they are full of crap.
Then there's the band singers who are out for fame and fortune. Those are the real bastards of music.
I should hire a sniper to pick off those greedy music whores.
"Hey, we found another 12 year old girl with nursery rhymes on her computer. Let's go over to her house and su-*snipe*"
That'd make my day.