Fate/Stay Night

[Cj_leonine]

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Fine people I'll watch it.

[Rebirth0]

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Shirou tries so hard to win Saber's love and she thinks he's trying to rape her. I find that funny.

[Kefit]

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What? No, not at all.

Saber is head over heels in love with Shirou. However, her Kingly oath dictates that she go back and redo her life as a king, to avoid causing the same tragic end both to herself and to her kingdom. Thus, she doesn't want to get attached to anyone in the present that might make her regret her inevitable decision to go back.

[Squeek]

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Even I caught onto this and I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to discovering hidden motives behind character's actions.

This show is really straightforward. That's maybe why I like it.

PS Saber looks much cooler with her hair down.

~Squeek

[esupin]

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So I'm all caught up now. I don't see the big deal with some of the fights. The servants move around nicely, but other times you can't see what they're doing. It's just a flash and a few grunts, and someone is suddenly bleeding. Oh, well. It's so predictable, but not in bad way, I guess.

[sleeplessdragn]

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I have to say, if I could take anythign from this show into reality, it would probably to be able to gash someone with the snap of my finger.

[Kefit]

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Episode 22 oh noes:

- Gil demonstrates again just how incredibly boring fights involving him are. He has already jobbed enough people - there was no need for him to job Lancer too, especially when he finally started to be cool.

- I really, really hope that we get to see a tri-blade Kotomine fight at some point. And that it is animated well. Hell, I'm hoping that we get to see more well animated fights period. It seems that the producers don't really know how to make a good Gil fight, so I am holding out for well animated Kotomine fight.

- Rin was in this episode! I loved the way she purposefully explained Ilya's situation in such a way so that no one who hasn't been spoiled would have any idea of what the **** she is talking about. Of course, she disappeared as soon as she and Saber figured out what was going on.

- Barely anything actually happened in this episode.

- Seems like the FINAL BATTLE starts next episode. I bet it will end on a cliffhanger, and then episode 24 will promptly resolve the fight and then throw the Fate ending at us. Then we will get epilogue type thing for the last few minutes of the episode. If we are lucky, one of Sakura, Ilya, or Taiga might actually have a line! And Rin will have two!

I really hope that my disappointment with the last third of this series isn't too glaringly obvious 8)

[SethSquall]

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This looks amazing. I'm Downloading now. Can't wait.

[testrut]

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Wow, the only thing 22 screamed at me was "this series needed more Lancer. Badly."

The rest of the episode was pretty lame.

[esupin]

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Shirou should have gotten his hands on a bazooka, or at least a grenade. He should be able to trace those, right? Lol.

[sleeplessdragn]

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This series seems like it would be better fitted for multiple seasons; too much content with little devlopment in areas that I really wish had more to them.

[SethSquall]

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Im still downloading >__< . I found a Bulk 1 to 13 and I dunno whether I can be assed to wait now. Maybe I should download each episode 1 by 1.

[Kefit]

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This series seems like it would be better fitted for multiple seasons; too much content with little devlopment in areas that I really wish had more to them.

I see a lot of people expressing this sentiment, and I really have no idea why.

The biggest problem plaguing the last third of this series has been the overabundance of dead space. For some reason I don't understand, the director favors using long, vague flashback sequences that are often repeated as a means of delivering exposition to the viewer. The vagueness of these scenes often kills any narrative value they have, and the result is a long area of dead space in any given episode. These flashbacks could easily be fleshed out in the time this series has, providing for a richer experience overall.

Hell, lengthening the series would only make the problem worse - there simply isn't enough plot action present in the game to keep the momentum in the anime going for more than 24 episodes. Thus, lengthening the series would result in even more dead space.

What this series really should be doing is cutting back on the vague flashbacks, and using the excess time to develop the characters that have been dropped by the wayside - namely, Rin and Sakura. Sure, they might not have played major roles in the arc of the game that the anime is following, but that doesn't mean that they can't have screentime and still be around.

Hmm, with a bit more thought I think I know why people have this sentiment. Episode pacing for this show is superb - I've never been bored during a single episode, and moreover each episode usually keeps me excited the entire way through. However, the overarching plot pacing is rather slow. Most episodes have little major plot points, and the BIG STUFF has generally taken several episodes (Saber vs Berserker, etcetc). Since people don't mind the individual episode pacing, it doesn't pop into mind when they think of ways to improve the overall pacing and character balance of the last third of the series. Instead, the first thought is that the show should be longer, to give more time for other characters and such. However, all that is needed is a simple change in directing style, a reduction in the MASSIVE focus on Saber, and a bit more love for the other characters.

[sleeplessdragn]

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I remember around episode 8 really expecting this series to take an entangling plot structure path and gravely hoping so. There are by far enough characters to accomplish this, and when the Berserker thing happened I remember constantly expecting to see clips of Lancer and what was happening to him. Since we're coming upon the end of the series, I think I pretty know how things are going to pan out, and in the end I don't think I'll be remembering this anime too solidly.

I think that they are simply over developing Shirou and Saber; perhaps they should have portrayed how other characters would have developed alongside. I think there was great potencial to have an excellent, complex and rich anime that would only complement the awesome fight scenes and story tension.

[Kefit]

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Oh, there definitely was - the overarching plot of the two game routes that the anime series is not following are far more interesting and entangled than the route that it is following.

Character balance, on the other hand, would be difficult regardless of which route the anime chose, since with other routes we would see the same focus problems, just with excessive focus given to different characters. What I find weird is that this series offered great character balance and overcame this obstacle for the first third or half of its run, and then simply stopped trying for some reason.

And all this isn't to say that I am not enjoying the show right now - I am, quite a bit. It just started out so amazing, and now is merely above average.