TWG XXVI: POSTGAME

[Kilgamayan]

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Well Mini.... I had Kilga #1 as guardian... but I did a really good job of convincing Hans that if Kilga WASN'T the guardian, he had to be a wolf. That was RIGHT when he came out with the whole tass/talisman or kilga/ld thing... so I feel that my comments to him in that regard really helped with how the game played out.

Argh, I knew you had a hand in this.

I'll get you next time, my pretty, and your little dog too.

[Tasselfoot]

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Aight Mr. Stratton... we'll see.


and for Talisman... I really had no intention of all of our actions being grouped together. As a wolf I just saw everything you were saying as what I hoped would happen, so I agreed. Had I been human and seen things that way (no idea if I would have or not), I would have acted the same way. But, once we were grouped together by TPS/Hans on day 2, I had to save you. If I didn't, everyone would wonder why we were acting all buddy buddy, but as soon as someone brings it up, I let you die. In the end, it would up being for the best as well, although for a while it didn't.

The one thing that I'm upset about is that Hans told eb pre-nForcer's save that Mini was the guardian. We a) were not 100% sure he was telling the truth and could be setting a trap... and then b) Mini could be the one actually being guarded, so that not only would we attack eb which would implicate eb... but mini wouldn't die. We also figured Mini NOT dying would help eb look better in Hans' eyes, which I'm guessing subliminally it did. But, had we killed Mini instead of nForcer on night 5... then assuming LD was still lynched day 5, we'd have killed nforcer night 6 and had an insta on Kilga on day 6... allowing me to not die. Alas, it didn't work out... but worked out in the end. (Grr... I wanted to go back and add something here, but I forget what it is....)

TPS... sorry boss. You were as good of a choice as anyone when we killed you... and I couldn't let you survive, no matter what.... and there was a shot you were the guardian.

Hans was kept alive for day 7 because eb figured that Hans trusted eb more than nForcer trusted eb.


Finally... to Fojar, sorry bro. From prior precident, nForcer will get credit for playing this game. So technically you haven't played a TWG yet. We look forward to having you next game, SO LONG AS YOU ARE ACTIVE AND ABLE TO PLAY ALL GAME.

[talisman]

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by the way what was with tps' pm to me? Was that some sort of test? It made me almost certain he was the guardian (I figured it was either him or kilga... and then he died), but I guess that's not true.

[evilbutterfly]

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eb did it really matter that hans told you? after nforcer was saved... you knew it had to be mini. (couldn't be kilga since hans had posted that he might be wolf aka the whole tass/talis kilga/ld thing).

Well, I'm pretty sure we were gonna wolf mini that night anyway, cuz nforcer had a phantom, and with the one save it would have been great to get it down to a 2v2 situation with phantomed people, cuz we could just insta one of them. After being told that, though, I knew we couldn't kill mini or else Hans would suspect me. :\

And yeah, I didn't really do much deciding of things when it came to wolfing. Mostly, Tass would IM me and be like "who you wanna kill?" and I'd just shrug and tell him I wasn't paying attention, so I left it up to him. It was a bit odd not communicating with my partner, but it helped because of the lack of an obvious connection between us. Tass was doing his own thing but kinda watching out for me, but I wasn't really thinking outside of my own survival, which is why I lasted so long.

On that note: talisman, your convo thing wouldn't have worked, cuz let's face it, I don't talk to Tass, even when I'm on his team.

[Tps222]

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There were no tricks behind the PM. I sent it because I thought it was possible that Hans was a wolf, I saw no harm in sending it to you.

GG EB on the wolf win. I think that is your first, you had me fooled.

Bring it on mini, I don't know why you are coming after me with a bat and all, but go ahead XD

Tass and EB suck for killing me, 16 straight games without a survival.

[Tasselfoot]

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I had a conversation with TPS where I absolutely picked apart his PM to Talisman... it was actually right before we wolfed him. Had I not had so much suspicion on me, I wouldn't have wolfed TPS and instead gotten him lynched... the conversation had SO MANY reasons why the PM was beyond retarded.

I can pull it up and post it if anyone cares.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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All I have to say is that is was fun reading the thread knowing who the wolves were.. made it very laughable.

eb, I did see that quote that tass made and thought the same thing, but I was already dead at that point.

[MiniNeo]

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Tps, If you did made your vote switch on time on day 3 (thats by memory, too lazy to check lol). Tass would be dead and I think the out come of the game would change dramatically. (I.e. one more day to see whos the wolf)

[Tasselfoot]

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not so much that Mini... but I think that if I was killed day 3 OR talisman on day 2... the kilga/ld suspicion wouldn't have been nearly as strong. Not to mention 2 random people were lynched who had no real reason for being lynched.

[HansSky]

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This also didn't help much:

NotSoFarOff: It doesn't matter.
bjstrattonIM: I would hope that one was correct
NotSoFarOff: eb is the guardian and nforcer is human
NotSoFarOff: You're alone.
bjstrattonIM: Then this game is done.
NotSoFarOff: nforcer was guarded last night
bjstrattonIM: Humans win
bjstrattonIM: You mean Night 5 >_>
NotSoFarOff: Yeah.
NotSoFarOff: Well
NotSoFarOff: Mini was actually the guardian but thanks anyway.
bjstrattonIM: rofl
bjstrattonIM: No wonder he was so inactive >_>

By the time the day started, I realized how Kilga could have said that in a very human manner, so I rubbed it off. But still...

Sorry Kilga. Again, I take complete responsibility for fucking up the game. Although eb did do a very good job, I wasn't very helpful either.

[Tps222]

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Mini, Hans IM'd me at 9:59 saying "Vote Tass quick". I was confused and didn't have nearly enough time to access the thread.

[FishFishRevolution]

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<3

Thanks, Tass baby.

[nforcer06164]

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Yay, I got guarded for the first time! Regardless of the human loss, I'm happy about this. I mean, I have to have some value to get guarded, right?

Apparently, Tass takes me for a whole lot stupider than I really am. This converstation took place on Friday night. Get a load of this...

TasselFoot: so who do you want to see dead first... me or kilga. me who has done nothing all game suspicious, or kilga who you yourself have been suspicious of since you took over.
TasselFoot: personally, i think the case for kilga is much stronger... and one of hans' big reasons for me being kilga was that he had a phantom and would be easier to lynch then on the last day. but now if there is a last day there will be 3 people and not 2, and phantoms won't matter.
nforcer06164: I'm not sure. I'm tired and don't feel at all like thinking right now. We'll see tomorrow.
TasselFoot: you can't give me a few minutes to talk about it tonight?
TasselFoot: you aren't online that much and i'll be out alot of tomorrow.
nforcer06164: as will I.
TasselFoot: and given how short yesterday was, i'd like to do this sooner than later
nforcer06164: well, you can talk to me
nforcer06164: I'm not doing any thinking
TasselFoot: everyone whose opinion is being listened to is saying myself and kilga. but the reasoning for me first was kilga had a phantom. but now that doesn't matter with the 2nd save. so i see no reason why i'm a more likely wolf than kilga.
TasselFoot: that make sense?
nforcer06164: not really
nforcer06164: phantoms do not equal wolf or not wolf
nforcer06164: plus, the reason for choosing you first is because you're more suspicious
nforcer06164: I'm more inclined to trust Kilga than you
TasselFoot: phantoms don't equal wolf or not wolf, but phantoms can hurt you in lynch voting.
TasselFoot: why? i haven't done a single suspicious thing all game.
TasselFoot: you have mentioned kilga as suspicious multiple times.
nforcer06164: my thoughts have changed over time
nforcer06164: after more recent posts
nforcer06164: not yours specifically
TasselFoot: *shrugs* i still see kilga as being much more suspicious to everyone, overall... then I have been at all. And for that reason alone I should be granted the ability to survive another day.
nforcer06164: Tass, any wolf would say that. and your request to survive one more day sounds like a wolfy attempt at securing victory.
TasselFoot: not really. it sounds like my attempt at surviving another day.
nforcer06164: You've sealed your own fate.
TasselFoot: from that line? are you kidding?
nforcer06164: it's a culmination.
nforcer06164: but you've sealed it with the last two.
TasselFoot: no, its not. its you following behind Hans and being unconcerned with what anyone else might have to say, even if you are wrong.
nforcer06164: you're dead.
nforcer06164: sorry.

It was the "another day" that got me. It was SO blatantly wolfish. I had a feeling he was a wolf after trying so intently to steer me into voting Kilga, but I didn't expect him to slip up to make it so obvious. GG at eb for offing me. I most likely would've gone for you after my conversation with Tass.

[GuidoHunter]

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Okay, so I STILL don't understand why everyone was voting for Tass on the second (?) day, around page twelve. It was because of all that talk and no good points that I thought Tass was human until he told me.

And, Tass, you were right, I wouldn't have guessed him.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Tasselfoot]

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I usually am. *sigh*