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  • star-crossed
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2017
    • 475

    #616
    Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by bugkid666
    edit: this is under the guise of zenith actually making more than one post. i also think lynching inactives is good, because people who do not talk do not help town. if one more damn person says that lynching inactives is wolfy i'm gonna riot
    Originally posted by bugkid666
    kinda no point in voting anyone I find suspicious when there's an inactive, but I absolutely see your point. I don't super care how that makes people view me, because I still stand by that decision and although zenith flipped town, it still helps to have more active people around I.e. giving us more info.

    that being said, lewdy would have been my second choice for sure.
    I have a less black and white view on how to handle inactives than you do, I think. I understand that people generally maintain their philosophy on that between games, so as long as someone is being internally consistent and not hypocritical, it is what it is. But, the riot comment in the first post, my brain has flagged as being out of place, because it's so...preemptively defensive? Not sure if there is more context you would be able to give on that
    twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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    • ShadoWolfe
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2009
      • 171

      #617
      Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by star-crossed
      I liked that this was something you were looking at, while also how you were approaching other aspects of day end. I think I liked FFA's behavior more than you did at the time. I don't know if you wanted to talk about that? DBP's I did not really like, although he's since claimed not to have known when it was.

      I feel like there was something else I wanted to ask you, but I can't think of it right now.
      FFA weirded me out going silent at the end of the day but ultimately ended up moving his vote and I feel better about him today. I would like to hear his own thoughts on that and why he ended up following DBP on Haku though, when DBP was his vote up until that point, so thank you for reminding me to ask. @FFA can you talk about your EOD silence and where your head was at in the moment?


      DBP basically played 3-4 hours of d0 fmpov. While he's known to do that now (and in the last game I played with him) or whatever, that wasn't always the case and isn't the DBP I'm used to from prior. Irrespective of that, what caught my eye at the time was that he disappeared for like the full hour leading up to EoD after his initial readup, and when he came back he told WV to keep thinking (even though he had been gone gone). So his contribution to EoD was quoting the neopets ban thing at :01, but was still willing to get on another TWG 101 highhorse to WV when he himself wasn't around most of the phase.

      I don't think that portion is all that indicative of DBP's alignment, but it's frustrating because it feels like this "show up at EoD and solve" meta that's developed is harmful and that the "detective backpack" alter ego has gotten to his head tbh.

      I also remember there was some contrast between lewdy's comments on "popeye" DBP vs the other inactives at the time, but idk how much stock I'd put in a dead wolf's posts. I'm just largely unimpressed by his D0 and want to see more of his thoughts on more players before I'm comfortable in being able to place where he's coming from





      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
      Originally posted by XelNya
      " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
      Originally posted by YoshL
      "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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      • ShadoWolfe
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2009
        • 171

        #618
        Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by star-crossed
        I feel like there was something else I wanted to ask you, but I can't think of it right now.
        Yesterday at EoD there were two things you said that I wanted to ask you about at the time but there was none so, since we're talking:

        The first is, "Shado comes off to me as having a lot of fun, and it reminds me of the good old days of TWG. I still think the main thing that gave me a good feeling, was the emotional complexity with when raeko forgot the game. DaBackpack apparently has no opinion on that. Lame. I think I was hoping that he would help me more with what to make of Haku. "

        can you walk me through the logic on "I wanted DBP to help me read Shado so I could better read Haku"?
        and who is the "he" in the last sentence?

        the other thing was right at EoD you were talking about how Haku was the one thing that engaged you or something along those lines and said "I still haven't decided if I can stomach leaving my vote there. I just feel like I needed someone else to step up and help me make more sense of it so that I can form a more holistic view of the game, and two of the people who might have been able to do that are Currently Active non-players, and it's just... I don't feel grounded in this game."

        what did you mean by "currently active non-players"? and do you feel more grounded now, or still about the same?





        Originally posted by Hakulyte
        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
        Originally posted by XelNya
        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
        Originally posted by YoshL
        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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        • ShadoWolfe
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2009
          • 171

          #619
          Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
          I don't think I've ever really thought much about FFA lol. Whatever vote I have on him is entire a joke. I'm also pretty sure I quoted a post of his that pushed me towards seeing him more town
          so this was in response to my asking you about your vote on FFA. 12 minutes before EoD.
          then you left your vote there and happily commented through EoD.
          what was up with that?





          Originally posted by Hakulyte
          I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
          Originally posted by XelNya
          " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
          Originally posted by YoshL
          "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
          Originally posted by mellon_collie
          "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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          • ShadoWolfe
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2009
            • 171

            #620
            Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

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            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
            Originally posted by XelNya
            " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
            Originally posted by YoshL
            "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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            • Hakulyte
              Galaxy Collapse says hi
              • Jul 2005
              • 4697

              #621
              Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

              Quote this when I miss eod.

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              • Wayward Vagabond
                Confirmed Heartbreaker
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2012
                • 5866

                #622
                Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                so this was in response to my asking you about your vote on FFA. 12 minutes before EoD.
                then you left your vote there and happily commented through EoD.
                what was up with that?
                I made an intent to vote zenith and if not him them shadow. I forgot to unvote FFA and that's my bad but happily commenting through eod was entirely because I thought I still had 2 more hours left. Do you think I'm just going to post after the day ends as some 4d chess move to throw people off my wolf trail. Like it's some elaborate scheme

                Context mah boi

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                • Wayward Vagabond
                  Confirmed Heartbreaker
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 5866

                  #623
                  Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                  Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                  on a less serious note, I'm gonna end my night by taking one from goldstinger's playbook

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                  Hard to not see wolfE as town here

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                  • XelNya
                    [Kaho]
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3369

                    #624
                    Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                    Loooooool

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                    • flashflash account
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 567

                      #625
                      Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                      I just wasn't looking at the thread leading up to eod and zenith was my lowest priority target
                      aka mikey

                      -----

                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                      Originally posted by QueenAshy
                      I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                      i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                      seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                      • star-crossed
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 475

                        #626
                        Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                        Yesterday at EoD there were two things you said that I wanted to ask you about at the time but there was none so, since we're talking:

                        The first is, "Shado comes off to me as having a lot of fun, and it reminds me of the good old days of TWG. I still think the main thing that gave me a good feeling, was the emotional complexity with when raeko forgot the game. DaBackpack apparently has no opinion on that. Lame. I think I was hoping that he would help me more with what to make of Haku. "

                        can you walk me through the logic on "I wanted DBP to help me read Shado so I could better read Haku"?
                        and who is the "he" in the last sentence?

                        the other thing was right at EoD you were talking about how Haku was the one thing that engaged you or something along those lines and said "I still haven't decided if I can stomach leaving my vote there. I just feel like I needed someone else to step up and help me make more sense of it so that I can form a more holistic view of the game, and two of the people who might have been able to do that are Currently Active non-players, and it's just... I don't feel grounded in this game."

                        what did you mean by "currently active non-players"? and do you feel more grounded now, or still about the same?
                        First part - by "he," I meant you. DBP actually seemed to agree with me on Haku. I think I felt that you were taking more of an observational standpoint on my conversation with Haku rather than saying everything on your mind about it. But it may have ultimately been more my fault for being afk, that I had not progressed as much there as I hoped to by the time I needed to lock in a vote.

                        DBP's pressure toward you was interesting to me, because I had a more overall positive view on your posts, but felt like it was more of a vibe than really getting really obvious townie energy from any specific post. I had wanted to discuss that and brought up a post I relatively liked from you. But DBP responded by more or less saying he did not really think it was that hard of a post for you to make, as a wolf and had no opinion on it. So it was not as interesting of a discussion as I had hoped.

                        Second part - the currently active players list, is that list of the bottom of the page that says who is posting. Roundbox and the sun fan were both on the list. They are not in this game (obviously roundbox is the mod...), but they have both been in a lot of my past games.

                        I do feel more grounded now because there is a lot more information. I think my main current problem is, I am not too sure how to get a better read on either of bugkid or Xel still? WV, I theoretically should be able to, but I need to do more work there.
                        twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                        • ShadoWolfe
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 171

                          #627
                          Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          Quote this when I miss eod.
                          are you already resigning yourself to being lynched?





                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                          Originally posted by XelNya
                          " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                          • ShadoWolfe
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 171

                            #628
                            Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            Context mah boi
                            context is important broseph but sometimes it's better to hear things straight from the horse's mouth





                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                            Originally posted by mellon_collie
                            "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                            • star-crossed
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 475

                              #629
                              Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                              I mean if you're trying to start a sandstorm a good place to start it by kicking up dirt
                              Do you remember what you meant by this?
                              twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                              • mellon_collie
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2017
                                • 156

                                #630
                                Re: TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                                how the hell do you get banned from neopets
                                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                                most frustratingly, we'll never get an answer for this
                                You forgot about DEATH POSTS BABY

                                I don't know about these days, but back in the day it was incredibly difficult NOT to get banned from Neopets. All my homies had backup accounts on the ready

                                When the site first started the mods would interact with people on the forum and would ban people for personal reasons. This never happened to me but I saw it happen multiple times

                                There were also tons of whack rules. You could get banned for:

                                attempting to bypass the swear filter

                                giving "identifiable information". This could include things like "I'm Canadian" or "My time zone is PST"

                                Coordinating a friend adopting one of your pets instead of just sending it into the abyss

                                I don't remember the exact specifics anymore cause this happened in like 2003 but one of my neofriends got banned for talking about being a furry. we started a whole campaign to unban her with a guild and pet pages that we would send people to. Not sure what we thought that would accomplish and I don't remember if she got her account back or just came back with an alt.

                                Now for myself, it was the stupidest reason ever. I'd had some random accounts banned in the past but my OG alt which became my main is the one I'm talking about. I had a complete plushie collection at one point in time, every plushie item in the game. I listed these in my shop at ridiculous prices to show them off, aka a "gallery". I stopped playing

                                FF to like 2011 or something and I log in for maybe 2 hours for nostalgia and then log off. The next day, I get an email about how I am banned because it is illegal to have a gallery in your shop since they have now added a gallery feature. They added this feature at some point in the time I had stopped playing and I just never noticed that it existed. I emailed them explaining the situation and they emailed back saying fuck off (not exactly that but yeah I wasn't getting my account back).

                                I just looked up my username and apparently it exists but I can't login using any of the passwords I would have used, so I can't verify if it's my account that was unbanned or if it's someone else. There is also apparently a pet with my username which 100% isn't mine which is kinda funny

                                So that is how you get banned from neopets lol

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