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  • star-crossed
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2017
    • 475

    #346
    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

    Originally posted by DaBackpack
    I kinda think this is what's happening right now

    With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

    We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

    Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

    Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

    Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

    If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

    "Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

    -----------------------

    For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

    This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.
    This kind of makes sense to me, but it also does not. I will try to articulate why. If it is meant to be in reverse, then that partly explains why it started with sun fan's announcement and why we do not know what day gold stinger died. But, if it is in reverse, shouldn't logo have replaced me technically? Because logo had the slot in the future, if we are now in the past. Also, if people never really stop posting or voting, then I do not know what stops a flipped wolf from ruining this thread, as you pointed out.
    twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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    • star-crossed
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2017
      • 475

      #347
      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

      Originally posted by Charu
      I'm not quite sure what the host means with that message...

      But I assume it means we shouldn't be treating these flips we're giving ourselves as some kind of info move.

      And if so, then I'm at a loss at how we're suppose to play here in this mirror game with all the information we received in terms of PR's not being able to use their kit in this game.

      Also, this reads like there is an anti-town in here.
      Yes, um, the host commentary is leading me to more confusion and also probably angle shooting. Not really sure what to say.
      twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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      • the sun fan
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 656

        #348
        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

        spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.
        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6207

          #349
          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

          ...Wat...


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • the sun fan
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2017
            • 656

            #350
            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

            Originally posted by the sun fan
            spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.
            both players have flipped Green
            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 6207

              #351
              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

              So here's another crackpot theory.

              blind said their role disappeared.

              Backpack is saying their role disappered

              What if it's RNG that town turns to wolf to make this game possible to exist in the first place?

              ...

              But oh... wolves would have to kill, huh? Never mind me...


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • roundbox
                fhqwhgads
                • Feb 2005
                • 2085

                #352
                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                mega rip
                Originally posted by the sun fan
                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                • Charu
                  Snivy! Dohoho!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6207

                  #353
                  Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                  @ Hakulyte

                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  @DBP

                  Game 1 might be the real game and game 2 only exist to help game 1 figure out the flips.

                  Shouldn't be just throwing away people for fun.
                  Funny you say this because we were told by the host that we shouldn't be throwing ourselves to get flipped.

                  Curious, isn't it?


                  Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                  Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                  Had a very shiny nose
                  And if you ever saw it
                  You could even say it glows

                  All of the other Snivies
                  Used to laugh and call him names
                  They never let poor Charu
                  Join in any Snivy games

                  (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                  • SubaruPoptart
                    da kyo~
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 737

                    #354
                    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                    Originally posted by the sun fan
                    spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.






                    Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                    Originally posted by the sun fan
                    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                    Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                    Oh God it's Subaru
                    Originally posted by Deamerai
                    damnit subaru
                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                    Originally posted by the sun fan
                    if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                    • star-crossed
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 475

                      #355
                      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      both players have flipped Green
                      Yikes. We are already out of substitutes? I was hoping we would at least get Psycho.

                      Originally posted by Charu
                      So here's another crackpot theory.

                      blind said their role disappeared.

                      Backpack is saying their role disappered

                      What if it's RNG that town turns to wolf to make this game possible to exist in the first place?

                      ...

                      But oh... wolves would have to kill, huh? Never mind me...
                      More people can see this for themselves when OOTC turns back on but sun fan told us in our "dead" OOTC chat that nobody's alignment changed between the games. If that helps.

                      Can somebody in the other game get Haku to explain why Haku wants a DBP flip?
                      twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                      • star-crossed
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 475

                        #356
                        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                        Originally posted by Charu
                        All in honesty, this entire time, Ben appears as town for me. Heck, his colored reads look town, but I guess you could reason that was due to Ben assuming he was about to be moved over to this game.

                        Then you got this phase where Ben is like "Y'know what? I'm done, just get me off and then flip me in the other dame."

                        Reverse psychology, as star-crossed put it for gold stinger and myself? Also probably, but I've seen just... "Ben" in this game, if that makes sense? Nothing scummy about him, just him responding how I would think he would respond to people.
                        Ben usually tends to get negative attention for his "tone" I think, early in games. What is suspect to me, is that he has not tried to follow up on which wolves may be pushing him, as I tried to explain earlier. So, to me, it comes off as rhetoric that he may be afraid of losing the argument if he were to follow to through, rather than a genuine way to investigate. Also, that people keep hanging afk folks instead of him.

                        A reason that I think asking to be voted or flipped can be a reverse psychology play is that people thought gold stinger was a town after he did it.
                        twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                        • star-crossed
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 475

                          #357
                          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          I want a DBP flip for the same reason you guys want a ben flip.

                          You guys have a SK saying he's a VT and telling you to lynch ben. No one seems to care about that.
                          I feel we have evidence against the existence of antagonistic neutral killing role, which I have outlined in this thread. Until somebody refutes that, I am going to try to hang wolves only, and suggest everybody else do the same.
                          twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                          • gold stinger
                            Signature Extraordinare~~
                            Event Staff
                            Game Manager
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6428

                            #358
                            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                            my crack theory is that wolf/non-lynch kills are what actually kill off players from this game. Also, lynches in this game that target a wolf also kill. It resolves the issue around there just being a stump in these games.
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            butts.


                            - Tosh 2014






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                            • SubaruPoptart
                              da kyo~
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 737

                              #359
                              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                              That's what I've been thinking too but that would be kinda strange. Cuz how would town rid wolves of the game if they were to get sent here






                              Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                              Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                              Oh God it's Subaru
                              Originally posted by Deamerai
                              damnit subaru
                              Originally posted by FreezinIce
                              You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                              Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                              wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                              Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                              • SubaruPoptart
                                da kyo~
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 737

                                #360
                                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                                Originally posted by gold stinger
                                my crack theory is that wolf/non-lynch kills are what actually kill off players from this game. Also, lynches in this game that target a wolf also kill. It resolves the issue around there just being a stump in these games.
                                Nevermind I literally can't read smfh






                                Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                                Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                                Oh God it's Subaru
                                Originally posted by Deamerai
                                damnit subaru
                                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                                You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                                Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                                wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                                Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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