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  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 263

    #76
    Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

    Angry play can be fun to watch but it's mentally exhausting when i just have to slog through some dude insulting me to try to shake me off for weeks at a time.

    I try not to do it and actively step away if I'm getting heated
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    To let the world be.

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    Originally posted by Charu
    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
    Originally posted by roundbox
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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    • FreezinIce
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 263

      #77
      Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

      I agree with raeko twg itself is an emotional experience with lies and deception so sanitizing it completely seems pointless but there's a line and that's something i havnt always realized
      Last edited by FreezinIce; 10-18-2020, 06:22 PM.
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      To let the world be.

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      Originally posted by Charu
      Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
      Originally posted by roundbox
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
      Originally posted by Red
      My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
      Originally posted by TWG Ike
      SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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      • XelNya
        [Kaho]
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2012
        • 3369

        #78
        Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

        Originally posted by T-Force
        No, go ahead, paint yourself into even more of a corner than you already are.
        That's not how that works.

        Originally posted by Bolth mannn
        I’m concerned as you say that like it’s something to be proud of?
        I don't hide that I'm a toxic user on this site. No reason to, the shoe fits. I have however said I tame my TWG posts in the spirit of the game. If the last game was too much, there's nothing I can do for you. I don't get any nicer.

        Edit: Also by "I don't get any nicer" if you translate it to "I refuse to be any nicer" it would still be accurate.
        Last edited by XelNya; 10-18-2020, 06:25 PM.

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        • j-rodd123
          End of the road
          • Oct 2006
          • 3692

          #79
          Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

          Originally posted by _Zenith_
          I mean, you guys all remember just how bad I was in the past, and I'd say I've entirely 180'd from that but I have the occasional slip in swearing.

          It's just a game anyways, people had issues with my play this game and think I'm 2IQ for trying but it just rolls off the back because it's a game lol.
          Yea I def agree and again I didnt actually read the game so not sure what the toxicity was in this instance. I was just commenting generally. also you won the game so what people say doesnt matter anyway
          Last edited by j-rodd123; 10-18-2020, 06:33 PM.

          Originally posted by FictionJunction
          wow

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          • j-rodd123
            End of the road
            • Oct 2006
            • 3692

            #80
            Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

            Originally posted by FreezinIce
            I agree with raeko twg itself is an emotional experience with lies and deception so sanitizing it completely seems pointless but there's a line and that's something i havnt always realized
            saaaaaaaaaaaaaame

            Originally posted by FictionJunction
            wow

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            • the sun fan
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 656

              #81
              Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

              I'm planning on making the post about this stuff when my video mafia game ends
              I agree that its a fine line but I think we can all agree that we have not been enforcing where the line is, and maybe we ought to begin doing that

              not because the game shouldn't be emotional, but because the game should be about having fun, and its currently taking a backseat to winning/playing optimally

              for better or for worse
              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #82
                Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                People throwing the term "toxicity" around for every not-net positive situation is why the term really doesn't mean anything to me.

                ....mutiple people keep asking me to come play, but considering that I find about half of you as unsuffable within the confines of the game as you do me I've no issue with taking the rest of the season off and just reassessing where I and TWG are in the spring.

                Frankly I agree with both Raeko and SunFan; it's a game where you utilize some really shitty and awful traits to lie and manipulate your friends and expecting that to not get messy seems like it's missing the point that (hopefully) no one acts anywhere NEAR like this IRL; on the other hand, there is a line and it's probably a good idea to reasses where it is and start enforcing it.

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                • SubaruPoptart
                  da kyo~
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 737

                  #83
                  Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                  I stayed away from the thread for a bit cuz I was kinda scared for... whatever reason. Either way here we are. This was the first TWG game I've actually played ALL THE WAY THROUGH and here are my thoughts.

                  I'm kinda pissed I kept forgetting the 24 hour shift. Whole time I was in the routine that day phases were 48 hours and I was like "I need a break from this; I'm gonna take today off and then come the next day" cuz I was a lil stressed.

                  I even got reminded that "hey idiot the phases are different now" but I still fucking forgot somehow. I hate it even more because when I came back my vote would've been on Zenith, too.

                  The biggest thing I can take away from this is that I need to improve reading comprehension a metric fuck ton before I try this game again. All I could read was tone; I couldn't identify any contradictions, nor any weird things about how people were acting other than what people were already talking about. I thought I was doing pretty well near the end with the whole trying figuring out the last vanilla, but I think I still got it just a bit off in the end there.

                  On another note, I did keep my promise.
                  Originally posted by SubaruPoptart
                  in fact, Shadow_God_10 and evanescence_death4ever, I will type everyone's full usernames out of spite from here on out
                  I only slipped once to my knowledge the whole game so that's... an accomplishment to me.






                  Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                  Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                  Oh God it's Subaru
                  Originally posted by Deamerai
                  damnit subaru
                  Originally posted by FreezinIce
                  You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                  Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                  wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                  Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                  • flashflash account
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 567

                    #84
                    Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                    usually the best way to look at wolfy contradictions is to read someone's iso

                    you'll see opinions change without real progression and stuff
                    aka mikey

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                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                    Originally posted by QueenAshy
                    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                    • SubaruPoptart
                      da kyo~
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 737

                      #85
                      Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      usually the best way to look at wolfy contradictions is to read someone's iso

                      you'll see opinions change without real progression and stuff
                      That's what I had a hard time seeing; I iso'd and still couldn't find any of em; y'know aside from the ones people pointed out already






                      Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                      Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                      Oh God it's Subaru
                      Originally posted by Deamerai
                      damnit subaru
                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                      Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                      • flashflash account
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 567

                        #86
                        Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                        have you tried taking notes? A lot of players write down things that they notice about each player, it could be what you need
                        aka mikey

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                        Originally posted by FreezinIce
                        FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                        Originally posted by QueenAshy
                        I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                        i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                        seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                        • Hakulyte
                          Galaxy Collapse says hi
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #87
                          Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                          Originally posted by SubaruPoptart
                          I stayed away from the thread for a bit cuz I was kinda scared for... whatever reason. Either way here we are. This was the first TWG game I've actually played ALL THE WAY THROUGH and here are my thoughts.

                          I'm kinda pissed I kept forgetting the 24 hour shift. Whole time I was in the routine that day phases were 48 hours and I was like "I need a break from this; I'm gonna take today off and then come the next day" cuz I was a lil stressed.

                          I even got reminded that "hey idiot the phases are different now" but I still fucking forgot somehow. I hate it even more because when I came back my vote would've been on Zenith, too.

                          The biggest thing I can take away from this is that I need to improve reading comprehension a metric fuck ton before I try this game again. All I could read was tone; I couldn't identify any contradictions, nor any weird things about how people were acting other than what people were already talking about. I thought I was doing pretty well near the end with the whole trying figuring out the last vanilla, but I think I still got it just a bit off in the end there.

                          On another note, I did keep my promise.


                          I only slipped once to my knowledge the whole game so that's... an accomplishment to me.
                          Reading and coming to promising conclusions is honestly a very difficult task.
                          It's technically a game based on assumptions so, you're unlikely to magically solve the entire game from simply reading the thread.
                          You may have to ask questions and figure out what helps you either town read as many players as possible or tackle suspicious player activity if you think someone made a mistake that doesn't make sense as town.
                          If others see you play and acknowledge you as town, it also makes things easier for others in terms of solving.

                          Basically, you can either help others solve you, solve towns or try to find a wolf. If you do all 3 at same time, you're pmuch guaranteed to be in a good spot.
                          If their game progression makes sense and the stance seems genuinely aimed toward finding a wolf (and they actually find one) then the odds are fairly high that you found a townie.

                          Well, it will rarely be 100% accurate, but the goal is to make that % as high as possible.
                          If you're wolfing, you can pretty much play your town game and spice things up into misleading town to mislynch others. Often, you don't even need to do anything besides finding PRs and making sure they don't live too long.

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                          • flashflash account
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 567

                            #88
                            Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                            send freezin games
                            aka mikey

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                            Originally posted by FreezinIce
                            FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                            Originally posted by QueenAshy
                            I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                            i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                            seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                            • FreezinIce
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2005
                              • 263

                              #89
                              Re: TWG 197 - TWGood End 2: Postgame

                              Send game submissions to me or TWG Jade Harley


                              I have 2, looking for 3 before i put up signups
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                              To let the world be.

                              ========

                              Originally posted by Charu
                              Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                              Originally posted by roundbox
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                              Originally posted by Afrobean
                              Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                              Originally posted by Red
                              My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                              Originally posted by TWG Ike
                              SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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