TWG 194 - Game Thread

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  • Hakulyte
    Galaxy Collapse says hi
    • Jul 2005
    • 4697

    #121
    Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

    tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.

    The odds of flipping a random town is just too high right now imo.

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    • jessiebessie
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2018
      • 1

      #122
      Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      Yeah actually lets just discuss this now

      I know when someone doesn't show at all (not saying DBP will do this, but it's happened a few times) everyone tries to avoid dealing with the slot because "lol it'll get replaced"


      We've had that kind of shit blow up in our face enough times to not do it again yeah?

      Like it's d0, we gonna probably miss anyway. if someone legit is under 5 posts then instead of the long parade of replacements that also need replacing we should just clear up the slots and not wait until MYLO this time
      Tbh I’m not a huge fan of hunting inactives. I’d rather execute someone based on information (even if it’s minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.

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      • flashflash account
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2017
        • 567

        #123
        Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

        sunfan's bingo board is filling out nicely already
        aka mikey

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        Originally posted by FreezinIce
        FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

        Originally posted by QueenAshy
        I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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        • flashflash account
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2017
          • 567

          #124
          Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

          Originally posted by jessiebessie
          Tbh I’m not a huge fan of hunting inactives. I’d rather execute someone based on information (even if it’s minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.
          here's your info: top poster is town 99% of the time, 2/3 of the wolves are in the bottom 1/3 of posters more than half the time
          aka mikey

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          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

          Originally posted by QueenAshy
          I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
          i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
          seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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          • XelNya
            [Kaho]
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2012
            • 3369

            #125
            Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.

            The odds of flipping a random town is just too high right now imo.
            They’re the same.

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #126
              Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              I'm seriously considering no lynch D0 because I think it will help PRs stay in the game longer and do more night actions.

              That would only happen D0 tho. Every other phases would be hunt based on flips etc.

              Lynching inactives is something I agree on, but the main obstacle is that this led to outting PRs in previous games.
              No lynching is just depriving us of info and doesn't clear up any inactive problem because inactives on d0 are inactves d1 like, 95% of the time. No lynching doesn't solve the slots which is the issue I don't want to deal with.

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.
              Obviously if we get to EoD and we have a good lead and the biggest inactive still makes minimum posts, I'll be inclined to follow the lead

              But you know the situation is rarely the case.

              Originally posted by jessiebessie
              Tbh I’m not a huge fan of hunting inactives. I’d rather execute someone based on information (even if it’s minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.
              That's proven to lose games. refer to what I told Haku about d0 inactives being d1 inactives

              I am also saying that replacing d0 inactives has proven to be not in town's favor in more then one game

              I get that it seems like going for information in a game about information would be the right call but I've lost enough to know that you can't even start that step without removing black boxes first. I ain't gonna sit here and let a slot get replaced 4 times in a row and have this giant ??? late game where the possibility of a mislynch benefits wolves the most.

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              • Xiz
                TWG Chaos
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2012
                • 3399

                #127
                Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                I'm seriously considering no lynch D0 because I think it will help PRs stay in the game longer and do more night actions.
                bad idea. if you are town this methodology is anti-town.

                No-lynch is only good in a final 4 situation

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                • XelNya
                  [Kaho]
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3369

                  #128
                  Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  ......

                  You know what? I'm just gonna vote one of the inactives again anyway. Not even gonna dive into whatever Haku just said
                  Hi my name is lar, I’m going to get my town read for the day by not thinking, please town read me, see look, I’m voting like I always do: without rhyme or reason.

                  Did I mention you should town read me for poking lar like this?

                  You should! I always do this. I always flip town.

                  I am town, read me as town please.

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                  • flashflash account
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 567

                    #129
                    Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                    xelnya town
                    aka mikey

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                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                    Originally posted by QueenAshy
                    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                    • Hakulyte
                      Galaxy Collapse says hi
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4697

                      #130
                      Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      No lynching is just depriving us of info
                      I used to play like that, but it never really helped me much.

                      Even info can be detrimental if a player wasn't going in the right direction.

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                      • Hakulyte
                        Galaxy Collapse says hi
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4697

                        #131
                        Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                        MML/Jessie wants info.

                        Clearly, that's the wolf team right here.

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                        • Hakulyte
                          Galaxy Collapse says hi
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #132
                          Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                          Originally posted by Xiz
                          bad idea. if you are town this methodology is anti-town.

                          No-lynch is only good in a final 4 situation
                          The ideal scenario is that town gets some sort of consensus on a lead wagon and that wagon flips wolf.

                          If it feels like it's going in that direction then sure yeah, no lynch shouldn't happen.

                          If the EoD votes look like 1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1 and it's chaos city.
                          I think no lynch becomes viable.

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5401

                            #133
                            Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            Even info can be detrimental if a player wasn't going in the right direction.
                            You know what everyone just pretend I found the time to scream at Haku on how bad this is I'm going back to Xenosaga.

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                            • Hakulyte
                              Galaxy Collapse says hi
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4697

                              #134
                              Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                              You know what everyone just pretend I found the time to scream at Haku on how bad this is I'm going back to Xenosaga.
                              You want info, but you also want to lynch an inactive.

                              I'm not sure what you want at this point.

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                              • Duskfall
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2019
                                • 0

                                #135
                                Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                                Have you ever come out of tryharding a scum game where you have to fake reads and then roll town and you no longer care about faking reads because you are town anyways so you just don't bother trying to solve the game at all?

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