jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

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  • MarioNintendo
    Expect delays.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Mar 2008
    • 4179

    #421
    Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

    Originally posted by ShyYoshiGuy
    Everyone seems to trust you and your arguments sound good.
    There's a flaw in your reasoning.

    Yes, everyone trusts I'm town. BECAUSE I'm town, it also means I do not have knowledge of who the wolves are. The way I see this is, the more you know someone is town, the more you know they don't know anything. I'm just shooting ideas.

    If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
    - A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
    - A lazy town

    I liked you more when you were voting for gold stinger. Alas, I disagreed with your vote, but at least it showed some effort to challenge ideas (gold stinger is a hard town). You were starting to make waves.

    Your tone/intent completely shifted right after my posts. It's too sudden. It's weird. It's as if you didn't believe anything when you were voting for gold stinger.

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    • ShyYoshiGuy
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2018
      • 0

      #422
      Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

      Originally posted by MarioNintendo
      wait, what happened to your gold stinger vote?
      He’s close behind, but your reasoning is better than mine. My reasoning’s just that his argument doesn’t hold any bound.
      Here to play TWG

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      • dragonmegaXX
        ITG playing fur
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2008
        • 3661

        #423
        Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

        Fair enough, I kind of assumed each thought was it’s own separate thing and weren’t necessarily connected. Just wanted to clarify.

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        • Antori
          FFR Veteran
          • Aug 2018
          • 296

          #424
          Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

          my vote is gonna be back on goldstinger if dragon flips town cause i had gut he's wolfing
          i still dont think mellon would be this inactive as wolf
          "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
          "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
          "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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          • Antori
            FFR Veteran
            • Aug 2018
            • 296

            #425
            Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

            thanks for the "my takeaway"s MN
            "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
            "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
            "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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            • ShyYoshiGuy
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2018
              • 0

              #426
              Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

              Originally posted by MarioNintendo
              There's a flaw in your reasoning.

              Yes, everyone trusts I'm town. BECAUSE I'm town, it also means I do not have knowledge of who the wolves are. The way I see this is, the more you know someone is town, the more you know they don't know anything. I'm just shooting ideas.

              If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
              - A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
              - A lazy town

              I liked you more when you were voting for gold stinger. Alas, I disagreed with your vote, but at least it showed some effort to challenge ideas (gold stinger is a hard town). You were starting to make waves.

              Your tone/intent completely shifted right after my posts. It's too sudden. It's weird. It's as if you didn't believe anything when you were voting for gold stinger.
              Well ‘cuz my argument doesn’t sound as good in my head now, you convinced me. Though, I mean, voting for GS was just so he would explain himself, but that didn’t work, so.
              Here to play TWG

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              • Antori
                FFR Veteran
                • Aug 2018
                • 296

                #427
                Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                people i think are pretty town: mellon, MN
                people i think are suspect wolf: GS, dragon
                "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
                "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
                "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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                • ShyYoshiGuy
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 0

                  #428
                  Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                  Originally posted by MarioNintendo
                  If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
                  - A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
                  - A lazy town
                  Much less lazy, much more because I have no clue what I’m doing. But I am also lazy because I’m busy.
                  Here to play TWG

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                  • MarioNintendo
                    Expect delays.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4179

                    #429
                    Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                    Just realize that by voting on melloncollie you are defending her more than she could have ever hoped to do by herself, is all.

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                    • the sun fan
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 656

                      #430
                      Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                      Sanzath (1)- gold stinger
                      Dragon (1)- Antori
                      Antori (1)- Dragon
                      raeko (2)- Mario, Shy
                      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                      • ShyYoshiGuy
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2018
                        • 0

                        #431
                        Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                        Originally posted by MarioNintendo
                        Just realize that by voting on melloncollie you are defending her more than she could have ever hoped to do by herself, is all.
                        So it’s a bad thing that I agree with you?
                        Here to play TWG

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                        • ShyYoshiGuy
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2018
                          • 0

                          #432
                          Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                          It was a bad idea the last times I forgot to say I had to go, so I’m saying it now. I’ve gotta go help move.
                          Here to play TWG

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                          • MarioNintendo
                            Expect delays.
                            FFR Simfile Author
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4179

                            #433
                            Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                            Originally posted by ShyYoshiGuy
                            So it’s a bad thing that I agree with you?
                            It's just the last thing I expected you to do. Because it challenges the way I pictured you as I was making my vote, it challenges my vote.

                            I'm sticking to my guns and will leave my vote here for the moment. But I don't like this situation one bit.

                            As far as I'm concerned, you guys should wait for melloncollie to defend herself (I know she will) before jumping on the wagon.

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                            • MarioNintendo
                              Expect delays.
                              FFR Simfile Author
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4179

                              #434
                              Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                              In the post above I'm talking about my vote for melloncollie, sorry for the confusion d-future peeps

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                              • mellon_collie
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2017
                                • 156

                                #435
                                Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                                Originally posted by MarioNintendo
                                I don't think gold stinger is the wolf....
                                But if my earlier reasoning is correct, I don't think you're wolf either.

                                Really, one scenario I'm seeing here that ticks all the boxes is melloncollie

                                * Doesn't post a lot
                                * Town reads everyone (she did ask Antori to defend themself, but melloncollie never made a flat-out wolf read)
                                * Is the most likely to tell Shadow_God to STFU in wolf chat as illustrated in my thought #2
                                * I can see Shadow_God reacting within 2 minutes to melloncollie telling him to STFU


                                (melloncollie probably didn't use the words STFU, but you get the idea)
                                Your first two points are fair enough, especially about not posting. I'm hoping to get better in that regard today. I'm really not town reading everybody but I get that I haven't exactly made that clear

                                as for your other point, your posts are a bit dense so sorry if I'm missing something

                                but just to be clear you think shadow's partner told him to stop trying?

                                even if I was a wolf I would never ever tell my partner to give up, ever. one of my biggest peeves in this game is when people self vote or otherwise give up, I think you should always try to somehow talk your way out or at least meme rather than giving up.

                                I'm not sure how much I buy into that theory anyway. I think it's entirely possible shadowgod just realized his position was pretty impossible and gave up on his own. I don't think he would have needed someone else to tell him he only had four minutes

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