jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

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  • Hateandhatred
    "The Quebec Steparatist."
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    • Feb 2011
    • 1974

    #211
    Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

    Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
    Im at this point just wanting to survive the first night so I can actually analyze something against all the posts.
    I think most of us feel this, so don't worry. Some people are a bit more comfortable cutting into the meat on d0, but I'm sure most of us just long for d1 to come so they can analyze outcomes.

    The exceptions being the wolves, who still want to get by d0, but not for solving.
    Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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    • Hateandhatred
      "The Quebec Steparatist."
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      • Feb 2011
      • 1974

      #212
      Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

      Actually that dragon post makes him look REALLY good as town, like it seems incredibly honest.
      Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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      • MarioNintendo
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        • Mar 2008
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        #213
        Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

        Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
        If I die first day because of cringy posts, so be it whoops. I cant be expected to make educated and intelligent posts this early.
        You can't get more cringy than me, mate. I'm trying so hard to be funny with my shitposting, only to get slightly acknowledged... Don't worry, just relax, open up, join the circle

        OR DIE LMFAOOOOOOOOO

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        • MarioNintendo
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          #214
          Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

          Originally posted by Hateandhatred
          Actually that dragon post makes him look REALLY good as town, like it seems incredibly honest.
          +1

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          • Hateandhatred
            "The Quebec Steparatist."
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            • Feb 2011
            • 1974

            #215
            Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

            ... OR his wolf partner told him to say that in wolfchat. If that's the case, it would prolly be one of the currently active peeps, so me, gooch stinker, sanz or mario (fuck that name)

            lets all keep that in mind
            Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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            • Hateandhatred
              "The Quebec Steparatist."
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              • Feb 2011
              • 1974

              #216
              Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

              Inb4 I just basically solved the game and I'm gonna be the first nightkill

              ... but actually, they'll think nightkilling me will be suspicious so they won't do it

              ... but then again they'll think people are gonna think they can't be that dumb so they'll nightkill me anyway

              ~WiFoMeRyYyYyYyYyYyYy~
              Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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              • gold stinger
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                #217
                Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                You know what, true enough. My true thoughts are at this point, as a newbie, I dont know anyones playstyle, or what to interpret from everyones posts. All I see is either shitposting, or people trying to offer advice. Im at this point just wanting to survive the first night so I can actually analyze something against all the posts.
                Let me break down reasons why I have my vote on you now.

                Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                Not really? I've skimmed through all posts in this thread, and am trying to understand the game a little better. For now though it just seem's like I was targeted for being AFK for a day, and then there was an immediate vote followed just based off the fact that I hadn't said anything.
                To be honest at this point, I feel like any lynch is a random lynch, and I don't really have a proper way to defending myself besides maybe posting THE BEST MEMES. If I get lynched now, I feel it as a learning experience and will probably laugh a bit when my role is revealed, and hope what I have said leads to a bit of something fun to watch from the sidelines. Ill probably vote for someone who has 1 vote right now in a bit just to maybe hope for a random lynching instead of just letting myself die, and revoke/change it if my situation changes.

                Very straightforward talking in a game that is based on deception and lying.
                Do I win yet
                I got first suspicion from this post because usually from the experiences I've had with others, is that generally, in all situations, having a KitB situation is very bad for town. Not only does it thin out the votes across 2 people so that if a wolf or two have a reason to swap votes, it can manipulate the lynch for town to a mislynch, but if a wolf is receiving pressure, they can roll dice to get out of their respective lynch. It makes me slightly uneasy that mellon was quick to town-lean from this post, but there was zero follow-up on it. I'm assuming that maybe mellon's perspective is coming from one that acknowledges that it's a new player, and they may lack game experience that would be crucial to knowing stuff like this, but it's worth pointing out.

                Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                I feel like personal thoughts of what I assume people are thinking/going for d0 are probably just better kept to myself, and after n1 I can actually start analyzing and being open with my thoughts.

                I also think Im being too open with what Im thinking during this phase and not shit posting enough whoops. Also just being an over obnoxious furry but HEY

                This is straight up restricting town knowledge. If the vote lands on you or you die or something and you decided to withhold that information, then it becomes lost knowledge, and town will play the game forever without that knowledge. AKA, it doesn't help town. So, if you're town and you aren't really there to help town solve the game, then it's kind of just a dead weight vote. This is what ended up confirming my vote on Sanzath in the previous game that we were talking about, because I was attempting to ask him questions about where his wolf reads would be if I flipped town (as most votes were on me and votes were starting to pile on Sanzath), and he refused to answer those because he was pretty darn sure I was a wolf, and that a wolf shouldn't have privileges to those answers for their own agenda.
                Originally posted by YoshL
                butts.


                - Tosh 2014






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                • dragonmegaXX
                  ITG playing fur
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #218
                  Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                  I feel like it’s hard to defend myself saying what I want to say without it sounding very wildly lol. If I die I die, and I can have a good laugh afterwards.

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                  • MarioNintendo
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                    • Mar 2008
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                    #219
                    Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                    Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                    ... OR his wolf partner told him to say that in wolfchat. If that's the case, it would prolly be one of the currently active peeps, so me, gooch stinker, sanz or mario (fuck that name)

                    lets all keep that in mind
                    If that was the case, it sounds like some top tier wolf gameplay, almost like playing two games at once. In order to enable this, it would also mean the wolf either knows dragonmega very well in order to come up with this strategy, or dragonmega opened up in wolfchat about their insecurities and the wolf was able to come up and deploy this strategy in time.

                    I highly doubt this scenario, mainly because
                    * I don't think any of the people you listed are close to dragonmega
                    * Dragonmega doesn't seem to me like the kind of person who would open up like that right out of the gate, even to a team of wolves

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                    • dragonmegaXX
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #220
                      Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                      Wolfy* thanks phone

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                      • MarioNintendo
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                        #221
                        Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                        Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                        I feel like it’s hard to defend myself saying what I want to say without it sounding very wildly lol. If I die I die, and I can have a good laugh afterwards.
                        Are you playing hard to get, right now??

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                        • dragonmegaXX
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                          • Jul 2008
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                          #222
                          Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                          Originally posted by gold stinger
                          Let me break down reasons why I have my vote on you now.



                          I got first suspicion from this post because usually from the experiences I've had with others, is that generally, in all situations, having a KitB situation is very bad for town. Not only does it thin out the votes across 2 people so that if a wolf or two have a reason to swap votes, it can manipulate the lynch for town to a mislynch, but if a wolf is receiving pressure, they can roll dice to get out of their respective lynch. It makes me slightly uneasy that mellon was quick to town-lean from this post, but there was zero follow-up on it. I'm assuming that maybe mellon's perspective is coming from one that acknowledges that it's a new player, and they may lack game experience that would be crucial to knowing stuff like this, but it's worth pointing out.



                          This is straight up restricting town knowledge. If the vote lands on you or you die or something and you decided to withhold that information, then it becomes lost knowledge, and town will play the game forever without that knowledge. AKA, it doesn't help town. So, if you're town and you aren't really there to help town solve the game, then it's kind of just a dead weight vote. This is what ended up confirming my vote on Sanzath in the previous game that we were talking about, because I was attempting to ask him questions about where his wolf reads would be if I flipped town (as most votes were on me and votes were starting to pile on Sanzath), and he refused to answer those because he was pretty darn sure I was a wolf, and that a wolf shouldn't have privileges to those answers for their own agenda.

                          I actually understand your last point. To be honest, my previous opinion was that d0 had no real information to give, and everyone’s just playing around and it would be a random lynch either way. I can actually see at this point how people could actually give out some decent information, especially if they know the game and the other players.

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                          • Hateandhatred
                            "The Quebec Steparatist."
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                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1974

                            #223
                            Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                            Originally posted by MarioNintendo
                            If that was the case, it sounds like some top tier wolf gameplay, almost like playing two games at once. In order to enable this, it would also mean the wolf either knows dragonmega very well in order to come up with this strategy, or dragonmega opened up in wolfchat about their insecurities and the wolf was able to come up and deploy this strategy in time.

                            I highly doubt this scenario, mainly because
                            * I don't think any of the people you listed are close to dragonmega
                            * Dragonmega doesn't seem to me like the kind of person who would open up like that right out of the gate, even to a team of wolves
                            There's no way this is a real rebuttal, come on man. -IF- Dragon was indeed wolf, he's been talking with his partner since the beginning of the game. If he had any insecurities about playing as wolf, his partner has DEFINITELY been aware of it for 24h at the very fucking least, basically as soon as the first votes on dragon happened.

                            Of course I don't actually think the wolf team is dragon+someone else, there isn't enough info still to lean this strongly towards a team, but -if- dragon flipped scum, you're dead for this post imo.
                            Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                            • MarioNintendo
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                              #224
                              Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                              Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                              The gods reached out to me while I was toiling over a 12 hour shift and whispered in my ear "Hey Mario voted for you in that thread you havent seen yet"

                              I've never been more thankful for such a revelation in my life. xP
                              Wait, this post rubs me the wrong way. It's meant to be a joke, but it's bad. Makes me want to think someone from the game contacted you to make you login. Could be
                              * The host
                              * The wolves

                              I'm probably reading too deep into this, but this is what a bad joke does

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                              • MarioNintendo
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                                #225
                                Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

                                Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                                There's no way this is a real rebuttal, come on man. -IF- Dragon was indeed wolf, he's been talking with his partner since the beginning of the game. If he had any insecurities about playing as wolf, his partner has DEFINITELY been aware of it for 24h at the very fucking least, basically as soon as the first votes on dragon happened.

                                Of course I don't actually think the wolf team is dragon+someone else, there isn't enough info still to lean this strongly towards a team, but -if- dragon flipped scum, you're dead for this post imo.
                                That would be fair, but I'll take my chances. This scenario seems too... Out there, for me

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