TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

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  • Gradiant
    FFR's Resident Trashpanda
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2012
    • 1100

    #1171
    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

    or 0T with one more claim needed on top of the full roleblock, with no godfather

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    • mellon_collie
      FFR Player
      • May 2017
      • 156

      #1172
      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

      Dang sorry for showing up so late

      I am vanilla town

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      • roundbox
        fhqwhgads
        • Feb 2005
        • 2085

        #1173
        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

        Oh
        I'm full roleblocker

        Blocked gradiant n1, daikyi n2
        Originally posted by the sun fan
        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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        • Gradiant
          FFR's Resident Trashpanda
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 1100

          #1174
          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

          neat

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          • roundbox
            fhqwhgads
            • Feb 2005
            • 2085

            #1175
            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

            Originally posted by roundbox
            .and this is why I have a mental block on gradiant. I haven't seen too much contributions from him today, and it's putting him in the NULL FOR DAYS slot. I need to resolve this
            I broke my never soft rule because I think it's lame now
            Here's my codified "I blocked him n1" post
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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            • roundbox
              fhqwhgads
              • Feb 2005
              • 2085

              #1176
              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

              I haven't read thread but I think I vote antori here because of setup bs
              Originally posted by the sun fan
              I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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              • inDheart
                Picker @ JAX2
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2011
                • 505

                #1177
                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                2) roundbox full roleblocker
                4) MixMasterLar full cop
                10) Antori 1-shot roleblocker
                11) Hakulyte full cop

                1) Daikyi vt seered green by haku
                5) Gradiant vt seered green by mml
                7) inDheart vt
                12) mellonxcollie vt seered green by haku
                13) ShadoWolfe vt

                setup seems unlikely single T but that's what the claims would indicate
                it is never 0T and so the godfather has likely claimed vt

                antori being fake is the only chance for a TT setup, so in a no SK world he is the lynch, and then shado is lock wolf fmpov and the last is the green checked godfather

                a cop being fake means SK exists and is hidden unless antori is also fake

                is there a chance of 2 fake claims?

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                • inDheart
                  Picker @ JAX2
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 505

                  #1178
                  Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                  eh, there are a few reasons there would be a blocked kill in the setup actually even without stacks

                  SK is vested + 2 roleblocks happened

                  but on 2 nights?

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                  • inDheart
                    Picker @ JAX2
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 505

                    #1179
                    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                    i have a hard time seeing any of those three on a team with shado just based off memory, but they'd have the right role to bus

                    raeko nearly ran him up with me close to deadline so maybe not her

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                    • roundbox
                      fhqwhgads
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2085

                      #1180
                      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                      antori!wolf = gradiant probably not godfather of team
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                      • inDheart
                        Picker @ JAX2
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 505

                        #1181
                        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                        actually the setup cannot be single-T either, because there are literally not enough wolves left in the game, because shado and i are not both wolves

                        pretty sure that means antori always flips wolf and lolmeforever

                        the thought chain i'm going down is whether shado is required to be a wolf in all setups fmpov

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                        • inDheart
                          Picker @ JAX2
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 505

                          #1182
                          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                          unvote

                          i may have forgotten something

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                          • inDheart
                            Picker @ JAX2
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 505

                            #1183
                            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                            in CC{BB,CC}TTT

                            4) MixMasterLar full cop?
                            11) Hakulyte full cop?

                            2) roundbox full roleblocker?
                            10) Antori 1-shot roleblocker?

                            1) Daikyi vt seered green by haku?
                            5) Gradiant vt seered green by mml?
                            7) inDheart vt
                            12) mellonxcollie vt seered green by haku?
                            13) ShadoWolfe vt

                            TTT requires either both blockers or both cops to be real, so i think this is still technically possible

                            when i voted i was jumping maybe a little too far ahead on antori lynch just being a good diagnostic idea. for this setup it tells us whether this is CC or BB, and if it's BB then you know roundbox is good and you have to lynch a cop

                            in that scenario shado is not lock scum, just unpeeked, and there are 2 people with inv immunity anyway so it's kind of a crapshoot mechanically

                            ruling out TTTTT seems kinda safe but it'd be hilarious if that's what the game was and either there are 2 fake cops or one's real but every single antitown player fakeclaimed. in that setup they'd eventually have to deal with each other in the night anyway

                            in TT the wolves are antori, shado and one of the green checks always

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                            • inDheart
                              Picker @ JAX2
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 505

                              #1184
                              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                              and in TTTT it's antori, a cop and one of the vts

                              so lynching antori gives us odd/even, and if even, a pointer of what to do next

                              that doesn't seem too bad

                              thinking ahead to night actions rn, i don't think they're very plannable so they may not be worth talking about? i came up with a plan but it's only very useful for TT given what the wolves have

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                              • Daikyi
                                FFR Player
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 10

                                #1185
                                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                                if we're ruling out serial killer setups right now, antori is the best lynch lmao

                                otherwise with CC CC B(B) T we sit on an odd parity of Ts, which gives serial killers in the setups. Removing any of the other claims will still keep the # of Ts odd

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