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  • Moria
    Sylphid
    • Sep 2017
    • 533

    #16
    Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

    Originally posted by awein999
    if we read the minds of the very smartest people in the world the majority of their thoughts would be gibberish. but they are capable of having a lot of them very quickly, come up with questions, and find/reach conclusions faster than most
    personally i see decisiveness as its own form of intellect, but aweins onto something there

    devonin too.. contextualize the situation and the applicability of the thought vs its repercussions before you go giving it any merit

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    • Moria
      Sylphid
      • Sep 2017
      • 533

      #17
      Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

      depends which direction of time the thoughts are focuseds too. foresight v hindsight the answers can be completely flipped

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      • Hakulyte
        Galaxy Collapse says hi
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #18
        Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        i've been debating this internally for a while. my opinion is that most thoughts are useless and therefore shouldn't be outputted unless you wanna waste your or other people's time
        Thoughts are actually just a piece of the puzzle that fuel your entire daily life.
        Thoughts are useful.
        Thoughts will waste your and others time.
        Thoughts will also help you move forward with everything.

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        i feel like there has to be a way to discuss this, even if imprecisely (i.e. there should be a generally agreed upon value for some things/thoughts/ideas)
        Here's the framework of thoughts if you put all the pieces together:
        ---
        Event -> Observation -> Filter -> Thinking@Thoughts+(Core Values) -> Decision.
        ---
        An Event is something that happens that is considered a fact.
        Observation is putting yourself into a context.
        Filtering is taking your life experience/beliefs and drawing your own picture of how you perceive what is happening. (this is different depending on who you are because otherwise everyone would think the same thing)
        Thinking is simply organizing information based on what you see, what you know and what could be relevant based on your experience in general.
        Core values are the fundamental beliefs of a person. It defines how you will take action after you think about something.
        Decision is mostly taking action to reflect everything else you did before that point. It can be frustrating if you're not decisive, but you'll get there with practice hopefully. (shoutouts to second guessing)
        ---
        Example:

        Funny gets on Flash Flash Revolution. This is an event.
        Funny observes the thread "are most thoughts useful or useless"
        Funny filters the information given to her by the other users who are posting in the thread.
        Funny thinks about what she's going to post.
        Funny decides to post something.
        ---

        tl;dr: You guys are overthinking "thinking" because it's just a part of a bigger mechanism which is the entire decision making of a person.

        Most thoughts are useful because they help you draw a picture of the current reality which will help you understand what you should do about what's around you to reach your goal.

        So, the more you think, research, ask others or even a group about what you want; the more likely you are to get a full understanding of what you're looking for without bias.

        I wouldn't be surprised if thinking also had mental health benefits because it may feed creativity and open the door to enjoying your life more by asking yourself the right questions to potentially reach new positive situations.

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        wow im very unobservant. sorry haku. i just didnt notice you turned 30
        It's okay, I'm going to pretend you didn't notice that you noticed I turned 30.

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        i get my flaw here is assuming that a thing's value is fixed and contextually independent.
        A thing's value is fixed.
        A thing's value is dependant of the person.
        A person's view of the thing is independant and may change over time.

        tl;dr overall:

        - Thoughts are useful because they are part of a bigger mechanism that is your decision making which is really important in life.
        - It can be influenced by yourself, others or both at same time.
        - Everything you think about matters because you decided to invest time thinking about it.
        - You wouldn't invest time thinking about something that doesn't matter to you because it doesn't matter to you.
        - If you invested time thinking about something that doesn't matter to you, it means you decided to place value into it therefore it's no longer something that doesn't matter to you.
        - Useless thoughts would be thoughts that you decided to discard because they were no longer relevant to your reality. Every other thoughts would be meaningful/useful.
        Last edited by Hakulyte; 04-20-2019, 05:32 AM.

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        • aperson
          FFR Hall of Fame
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2003
          • 3431

          #19
          Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

          depends on what you do with the thoughts

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          • Mahou
            魔法少女
            • Jan 2006
            • 2153

            #20
            Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

            lmao
            Originally posted by lofty rhino
            one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
            AND watch anime.

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            • Svaz
              quite clever
              • Oct 2008
              • 792

              #21
              Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

              Imo it’s counterproductive to judge your inner thoughts, it’s been a while since I’ve dabbled in mindfulness but trying exercises like being in the moment and letting thoughts happen without judging them may help you reshape your thought patterns into something more beneficial for you.

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              • Funnygurl555
                T-Force's Rival
                • Dec 2010
                • 1865

                #22
                Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                Originally posted by Mahou
                lmao
                oh yes the old "let's laugh at any attempt at critical thinking on the internet since you presume to have a relatively higher level of intelligence when you're actually being intellectual dead weight"

                people responding with just "lmao"/"lol"/"rofl" is one of my biggest pet peeves on the internet, if you think i'm being too harsh

                there's nothing wrong with asking or engaging with dumb questions so long as you're willing to learn from the discourse that comes from it

                gdi
                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                is funny eaman?
                Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                Originally posted by the sun fan
                GET DUNKED FUNNY
                (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                • Svaz
                  quite clever
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 792

                  #23
                  Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                  You know he’s just gonna quote that whole ass post and reply “lmao” to tilt u right

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                  • Funnygurl555
                    T-Force's Rival
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1865

                    #24
                    Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                    Originally posted by Svaz
                    You know he’s just gonna quote that whole ass post and reply “lmao” to tilt u right
                    yeah i realized that a couple moments after i pressed send e___e
                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    is funny eaman?
                    Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                    Originally posted by the sun fan
                    GET DUNKED FUNNY
                    (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                    • DaBackpack
                      ~ お ま ん こ ~
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 918

                      #25
                      Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                      to give an honest and sincere answer I think most thoughts that you have are valuable in some sense but imperceptively so

                      me having some fleeting observation has healthy cognitive effects and gives me something specific to think about, distracting me from drowning in a infinitely expanding set of useless qualia


                      Originally posted by Moogy
                      no one cares
                      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                      that's kind of a sad statistic

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #26
                        Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                        "Alright, if I tap 'B' here, then down special and grab ledge, they might come over and I'll give them with a ledge jump F-Air since that move is a bit disjointed."

                        A thought that occurs whenever I play Duck Hunt in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.

                        Useful or not useful depends on the other person's needs. If the person doesn't give a crud about Smash, would this thought be useful for them?


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • Mahou
                          魔法少女
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 2153

                          #27
                          Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          oh yes the old "let's laugh at any attempt at critical thinking on the internet since you presume to have a relatively higher level of intelligence when you're actually being intellectual dead weight"
                          I think you’re just reading too deep into the lines but okay.

                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          people responding with just "lmao"/"lol"/"rofl" is one of my biggest pet peeves on the internet, if you think i'm being too harsh
                          There is nothing “harsh” about your overreaction to my response.

                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          there's nothing wrong with asking or engaging with dumb questions so long as you're willing to learn from the discourse that comes from it
                          You’re absolutely right - I just decided to use “lmao” as a way to paraphrase how I felt about your question.

                          Originally posted by Svaz
                          You know he’s just gonna quote that whole ass post and reply “lmao” to tilt u right
                          This is funny, but nah.
                          Originally posted by lofty rhino
                          one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
                          AND watch anime.

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                          • Dinglesberry
                            longing
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 2679

                            #28
                            Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                            Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                            oh yes the old "let's laugh at any attempt at critical thinking on the internet since you presume to have a relatively higher level of intelligence when you're actually being intellectual dead weight"

                            people responding with just "lmao"/"lol"/"rofl" is one of my biggest pet peeves on the internet, if you think i'm being too harsh

                            there's nothing wrong with asking or engaging with dumb questions so long as you're willing to learn from the discourse that comes from it

                            gdi
                            lol ur so dumb xd

                            edit (i acutally read ur post): no one gives a shit how smart they are on the internet and ur like bottom barrel atm
                            Last edited by Dinglesberry; 04-22-2019, 10:04 PM.

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                            • DaBackpack
                              ~ お ま ん こ ~
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 918

                              #29
                              Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                              Originally posted by Mahou
                              some shit
                              "Yeah I'm making a public display of my disdain for your question but it's not because I'm performatively demonstrating my galaxy brain intelligence for the world to see or anything, baka."

                              -Mahou 2019
                              Last edited by DaBackpack; 04-22-2019, 10:05 PM.


                              Originally posted by Moogy
                              no one cares
                              Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                              there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                              that's kind of a sad statistic

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                              • DaBackpack
                                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 918

                                #30
                                Re: are most thoughts useful or useless

                                Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                                no one gives a shit how smart they are on the internet
                                are you new here?


                                Originally posted by Moogy
                                no one cares
                                Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                                there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                                that's kind of a sad statistic

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