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  • who_cares973
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 15407

    #16
    Re: Quick rant on fitness

    Originally posted by Mahou
    Ah okay - that does make sense. Typically during a weight cut you do increase your protein to prevent muscle loss. I’m not sure what the majority of your diet consist of, but just don’t make the mistake of having a majority of your protein come from powder.
    Yeah only 50g of it comes from powder and it's protein isolate.

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    • Syhto
      BuMP it
      • Mar 2006
      • 2466

      #17
      Re: Quick rant on fitness

      Originally posted by Travis_Flesher
      This is going to sound mad objective, but. Leafy greens >>> protein
      i think you mean subjective

      @mahou, DOMS = delayed onset muscle soreness, like when you workout, then suddenly 2 days later you are sore af

      also if you're trying to lose weight I wouldn't even worry about getting that much protein, it would be easier to just lose most of the weight. As long as you lift often and heavy I promise you won't lose that much muscle and you will still gain strength, you'll probably still gain muscle

      also, i wouldn't take in protein, based on your calculations if you want to stick with those, using what your body weight currently is. Use what your body weight target is, idk if you are doing that or no

      but its way easier to focus on losing weight first IN MY XP cause then you can really focus on muscle gain when you're within like 5% of your goal BFP (body fat %)

      it is true tho that whey protein is like cheap af compared to normal food a lot of times for the amt of protein you are getting and protein intake is super important, i personally just dont like counting it or hitting X amount I just eat a lot of high protein food esp after working out

      /ramble

      (sorry i know i should probably stay in my hula hoop but i am kinda into this stuff and i just wanna help sry if its rude and feel free to ignore my opinions/advice completely)
      Last edited by Syhto; 08-9-2018, 04:44 PM.
      Originally posted by ~jrodd
      keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
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      • who_cares973
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 15407

        #18
        Re: Quick rant on fitness

        Well I've been adjusting my protein intake as I lose weight. So it's always going down as my weight goes down. I also have a lot of body fat to lose(30-32% bf right now)so I figure why not gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. I'll try out not using protein powder and see if there's any difference. If not then yeah I probably consume enough protein through food

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        • Syhto
          BuMP it
          • Mar 2006
          • 2466

          #19
          Re: Quick rant on fitness

          well, that's what I'm saying. As long as you are working out and eating protein, I don't think you need to worry too much about hitting a protein goal when you are cutting. A lot of people say otherwise but usually trying to hit that protein goal is just gonna put your consumption higher and slows down weight loss
          Originally posted by ~jrodd
          keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
          Originally posted by ~Tao of Dossar
          I never self-reflect, and therefore, I have no negative thoughts about myself. However I am also aware about my successes.

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          • Travis_Flesher
            Champion
            • May 2011
            • 791

            #20
            Re: Quick rant on fitness

            Originally posted by Syhto
            i think you mean subjective
            Pretty sure I meant objective.
            As in, I'd rather object than subject myself to not letting this go. Oxford can get it n'amean. The main objective.
            Last edited by Travis_Flesher; 08-9-2018, 06:16 PM.
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            • Funnygurl555
              T-Force's Rival
              • Dec 2010
              • 1865

              #21
              Re: Quick rant on fitness

              Originally posted by who_cares973
              I also have a lot of body fat to lose(30-32% bf right now)so I figure why not gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
              your bf % is lower than mine fwiw........... by like.......... 10%...............

              your progress is lit though

              i have nothing to add here i was just reading this 'cause it's interesting
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              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #22
                Re: Quick rant on fitness

                Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                your bf % is lower than mine fwiw........... by like.......... 10%...............

                your progress is lit though

                i have nothing to add here i was just reading this 'cause it's interesting
                I started off at like 40-45% haha. But yeah thanks! It's hard work but I'm a hard worker

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                • Mahou
                  魔法少女
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 2153

                  #23
                  Re: Quick rant on fitness

                  Originally posted by Syhto

                  @mahou, DOMS = delayed onset muscle soreness, like when you workout, then suddenly 2 days later you are sore af
                  I need to give this a try because my back does get a little sore after doing deadlift sessions. And yeah...it always happens on the second day.

                  Originally posted by Syhto
                  also if you're trying to lose weight I wouldn't even worry about getting that much protein, it would be easier to just lose most of the weight. As long as you lift often and heavy I promise you won't lose that much muscle and you will still gain strength, you'll probably still gain muscle
                  I will have to disagree on this.
                  I think for novices that are starting out weight lifting, the protein intake won't that much of a problem because you will be burning fat and gaining muscle at the same time. The novice phase is the only time that this will happen. That's why I said most supplements are kind of worthless anyway, because the average joe blow on the street is just trying to meet a basic standard of fitness. Unless you have horrible genetics, I think most people can pull off a nice physique in about 6-7 months of hard work. Around a year and a half, your body should look completely different by a landslide.

                  When I start to cut, I really do like to increase the protein because it will help preserve muscle that I have gained during my bulk. I think the biggest fear of most lifters is that you can potentially lose muscle during your weight loss because of a low protein intake. When your body burns fat, it will grab anything that it can...(i.e water, fat, muscle) so that it can function. In a nut shell, gaining muscle naturally is pretty fucking hard unless you're on the needle.

                  Originally posted by Syhto
                  (sorry i know i should probably stay in my hula hoop but i am kinda into this stuff and i just wanna help sry if its rude and feel free to ignore my opinions/advice completely)
                  It's not rude at all. I actually do like to see your perspective on things.
                  Last edited by Mahou; 08-9-2018, 08:13 PM.
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                  • FirstMaple8
                    D7 Elite Keymasher
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 566

                    #24
                    Re: Quick rant on fitness

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555

                    i have nothing to add here i was just reading this 'cause it's interesting
                    :P same
                    Last edited by FirstMaple8; 08-9-2018, 10:51 PM.

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                    • Syhto
                      BuMP it
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2466

                      #25
                      Re: Quick rant on fitness

                      Well, if you're losing fat you're going to lose some muscle, that's just how it is. It feels like going against the natural order of things I guess. But this is from a womans perspective, where muscle gain makes less of a difference when you wont have any real definition till you're like 17% BF anyways. However I know people that fast and vegans as well, if you work out you can probably maintain the muscle you have but it will be difficult to gain.

                      So on second thought yeah, you're right. I'll have to look into that a bit more.
                      Last edited by Syhto; 08-10-2018, 05:07 PM.
                      Originally posted by ~jrodd
                      keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
                      Originally posted by ~Tao of Dossar
                      I never self-reflect, and therefore, I have no negative thoughts about myself. However I am also aware about my successes.

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                      • who_cares973
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 15407

                        #26
                        Re: Quick rant on fitness

                        I feel like I've been gaining muscle as I've been losing weight as I can lift way more now than I could when I started and I've lost 30 pounds since I started weight training.

                        I think it just depends on how much day you have when you started. I don't think someone who's 18%bf and went on a cut will gain much if any muscle as someone who's like me, a fatass

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                        • Syhto
                          BuMP it
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 2466

                          #27
                          Re: Quick rant on fitness

                          I actually bulked for 6 mos before I started cutting this time around, and my results were far better because I gained so much muscle in that 6 months, and my gains have continued to increase even while I'm losing fat. Altho I am on a small scale rn, like .5lbs of fat a wk but still lean muscle mass is increasing

                          all I do is eat big around workouts and don't eat much at all when I'm not working out but all whole food

                          I guess that's true, it makes a difference where you're at BF% wise. When you do a real cut like for competition tho you lose some muscle, I am just not that down to the wire. If I was cutting to like 12% I would def see muscle loss I think but I'm at 16.5 and don't see much reason in going to 12

                          I WILL say though that the rate at which I'm gaining muscle slowed down quite a bit (altho strength gain did not) anyways this is kinda off topic my b
                          Last edited by Syhto; 08-10-2018, 05:53 PM.
                          Originally posted by ~jrodd
                          keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
                          Originally posted by ~Tao of Dossar
                          I never self-reflect, and therefore, I have no negative thoughts about myself. However I am also aware about my successes.

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                          • Arch0wl
                            Banned
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 6344

                            #28
                            Re: Quick rant on fitness

                            the reason eggs > whey is because of digestion time. the easier a food is to digest, the faster it will; therefore, the food will have a shorter "half life".

                            in other words, you can think of chewy meat as extended-release protein.

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                            • Arch0wl
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 6344

                              #29
                              Re: Quick rant on fitness

                              also, if sleep = good, then by extension sleep aids = good:

                              * suppversity.com has a lot on the benefits of melatonin. http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10...anted-to-know/

                              * I'd also like to add diphenhydramine -- the active ingredient in every grocery store sleep aid in the US.

                              * sleep masks help for when you wake up in the morning and the sun is in your eyes. https://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Mask-Be.../dp/B01NAVICK5

                              * I've heard sleep earplugs help too, but I think this would just cause me to stay inside my own head and ignore my alarms.

                              maximizing sleep has been a game-changer for me, because I have abnormally high energy levels (Reach can corroborate this, as can anyone else who has met me IRL) and am naturally awake for longer than most people. taking sleep aids requires me to calculate the time I am going to sleep much like I would eating while taking adderall -- i.e., I can't just listen to what my body wants to do -- but it's worth it.

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                              • choof
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 8563

                                #30
                                Re: Quick rant on fitness

                                hell yeah sleep aids are great
                                gimme some ambien

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