Suggestion: Replace 'FC' Bar

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  • Travis_Flesher
    Champion
    • May 2011
    • 791

    #16
    Boys we need a new synonym for arbitrary ne1 feeling it or?

    Originally posted by TheSaxRunner05
    Thoughts?
    Use the old way. The change from the long used pure point based combo driven ranks to raw was fair to some but I think the combo way was and still is niche. I think all the effort to change the system, in myriad way, promotes toxicity and oneupsmanship. Kudos to the coders. Your nerddom is fully justified and leet, but I love a nice critical perspective. There's nowhere to go from the bottom but up I always say.
    And that's the thing about videogames and the people that play them. They're there with benchmarks, goals, and challenges to face but then the goals change and a new challenge occurs, sometimes clearing the scoreboard of your old accomplishment. The real pride comes in knowing that you've done a good job, which further exemplifies why the points (in emotional meta) make some and break others. A toxic behavior to those who are scrupulous and not nonrepentant douchazi.
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    • SK8R43
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Jan 2008
      • 4683

      #17
      Re: Suggestion: Replace 'FC' Bar

      Without reading anything but the OP i kind of agree. I feel as if getting an FC is pretty pointless at this point and when i have an fc of something like 10-0-0-0 and get 5-0-1-0 and lose my FC its pretty lame. I dont know if i fully support the idea, but i do agree that fc's need to go.
      I mean going for fc's is alright i guess if you are completely non mashing but losing them to a better raw score is definitely heartbreaking.
      Last edited by SK8R43; 06-8-2018, 03:25 PM.
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      • Velocity
        Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Administrator
        • Jul 2007
        • 1819

        #18
        Re: Suggestion: Replace 'FC' Bar

        The new site will keep track of FC even if a better score isn't a FC. It will also keep track of how many FC and AAAs just like how plays are tracked. This can also be expanded to and other flags we would want to track in the future.

        Adding a flag is more of a nightmare due to how the site was coded 10+ years ago where every single song on FFR is a completely separate table in the db. If any changes are made to 1, it has to be reflected across all 2200+ tables. On top of that, some sections of the site fetch all columns using a numerical fetch, thus adding or moving columns will break it.

        No one wants to touch the score code because it's a fucking mess that took me 2 months just to figure out for the dev site.
        Last edited by Velocity; 06-8-2018, 05:13 PM.

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        • mewtikz
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2017
          • 34

          #19
          Re: Suggestion: Replace 'FC' Bar

          I think that having another flag to bridge the gap between FC and SDG is a good idea, because I have plenty of FCs that have abysmal accuracy, and plenty of FCs with better than 95% accuracy as well. To me, this makes the FC flag feel good the instant you get it, but it holds no special value to me outside of that.

          So your post got me thinking...

          What about replacing the SDG flag with LPG (low-percent goods) or AA? In my opinion, this would count as a 95% or 97.5% score. With this sort of flag, I could see some my best scores and they would actually have a more concise flag on them. Let me provide some examples with my top scores:

          Maelstrom (98.3%)- no flag, I got an incredibly good AAA equiv, almost an SDG (11 raw I think?), but because it has no flag it's basically invisible to me.
          Pimp Slap (96.1%) - FC flag, I got a really good AAA equiv but when I see it ingame it doesn't feel special.
          Problematic (97.9%) - FC flag, again, it would like nicer with an AA tag because it shows that I actually got good accuracy instead of just plain old FC.

          I hope I illustrated my point clearly enough so you can see it from my perspective!

          I see from Velocity's comment that adding or replacing a flag would be incredibly difficult to do right now from a technical perspective, but it would definitely be very nice to have on the new site; getting SDGs is my current goal because they show me that I'm improving, better than an AAA or FC, in my opinion.
          Last edited by mewtikz; 06-10-2018, 02:10 PM.

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          • RedSword69
            FFR Veteran
            • Feb 2006
            • 39

            #20
            Re: Suggestion: Replace 'FC' Bar

            Originally posted by Velocity
            The new site will keep track of FC even if a better score isn't a FC. It will also keep track of how many FC and AAAs just like how plays are tracked. This can also be expanded to and other flags we would want to track in the future.

            [...]
            When you say "the new site"; do you mean the current website, or an upcoming one ? Because the behaviour described still occurs (a better score canceling a FC can reduce the FC count by one).

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