why do people hate on osu!mania??

[Sidek]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

star rating shouldn't have bearing on on your enjoyment of the game, stepmania has not had a good rating system until recently. osumania was ahead of the game, they beat us to the punch.

lag is a legitimate reason to not like the game, i personally rarely experience lag but that's case by case.

It's not cool to just slanderously rag on a community like this, it's this level of immaturity that perpetually gives both communities the idea that each other suck. Despite the bad cookies in both stepmania and osumania, you should put yourself above such idiotic bickering, it serves no good purpose.

yeah you are right.

[DDR_Anna]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

My only real "issue" with o!m is long notes

1. Having to let go at the end of the notes always (mentally) gets me
2. If I have to hold a note (in columns 2 and 3) while doing complex patterns, I will most likely fail everything at that part

however, do note I started mania after months of long note-less ffr so

[rushyrulz]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

star rating is trash because its based purely on max nps regardless of patterns (which in turn forces a meta in which mappers create heavily manipulatable maps so that they get popular and pushed for rank. on a side note the ranking system is flawed and run by idiots who cant tell the difference between streams and handstreams)

the leaderboard is inclusive of all keymodes, which means that 7k players dominate it. its also based on pp, which is based on SR, which is complete shit

also sure sm5 doesnt have it, but sm5 is trash. thats why we use etterna which has a rating system infinitely better than sr

all the maps on osu are complete garbage save from converts from other games.

skinning in om is super minimal and almost nothing can really be accomplished with it outside of putting fucking anime girls everywhere.

it has a cancerous reddit-tier community that doesnt know the first thing about VSRG games and hivemind worships any half decent player they see.

also the devs dont have a fucking clue about rhythm games in general and the whole game is a joke.

oh yeah and their acc system is complete trash too. theres almost no punishment for missing notes

This post is absolutely beautiful.

Idk I played osumania for like 2 weeks. Column colors were awful and nigh impossible for me to get used to. I was stuck in downscroll and didn't care enough to download the whatever it is I need to make upscroll happen (which should be a feature, not an add-on). The letting go of freezes on time was just ugh, so I quit because it was too far off from what I was used to. Also, I'd watch hentai if I wanted to hear that much anime whining.

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

you guys all missed the mark pretty hard

everywhere i look on forums people just hate on osu all the time?
why hate? it has lots of good things like a automatic rating system (star rate) which current sm 5 does not have nor ffr
it also has a nice leaderboard system which are counted off pp which is very well maintained and is still is gonna have a massive overhaul to make it even better.
together with having lots of different types of maps (from one to ten keys!) i dont see any reason to dislike it.

every one of these points is demonstrably false and you cite them as reasons not to hate on osu

this means you are either stupid, willfully ignorant, just plain ignorant, or some combination of these things and despite this you jet off to other communities and game forums to advertise your game as being better than others

even more unfortunately you are representative of the osu player base

that is why everyone hates on osu

[PixlSM]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

things

im just addressing some of the things brought up in the OP.

as far as maps, yes a LOT of the maps are completely boring anime ops with very basic layering and no pr.

They dont allow dumps to be ranked, meaning hard maps are very limited.

The beatmap ranking system is run by people who probably dont even know what pr is anyways. and even if the BNs or whatever they are called knew what they were doing, the ground rules set in place are unnecessary and convoluted and as a result the ranked maps suffer.

about the leaderboards and ratings thing, once again I was responding to the OP. that being said, my statement about SR (which is a bad system) affecting the mapping meta in osu (lots of jumptrills, difficulty spikes, manipulatable patterns) still stands.

as far as the whole gameplay > graphics:
sure gameplay is more important, but the gameplay is osu is really bad (very easy to mash, poor acc system, score system is a complete joke, etc)

also if the skinning system is so bad I cant even get a setup I can read, thats pretty shit

Every community will have its sourpatches, stepmania community included. Both games are community driven for the most part, and you can try to tie that into how both games are in their current states, especially including content provided by the community. As for the games at their core, the community did not actually create the actual game, just most of the content, so this statement i will still chalk up as it does not speak for the game.

again, the OP was about "why do people hate on osumania"

the community is a perfectly valid reason to hate a game (especially when its so integrated with everything in the game)

I'm not one to say what is and isn't a rhythm game or anything, so here's what google/wiki says: Rhythm game or rhythm action is a genre of music-themed action video game that challenges a player's sense of rhythm.

I think that's a fair summary of what a rhythm game is. As to what makes it a joke I'm not 100% certain what you mean. It must be a very good joke considering its popularity.

I didnt say its NOT a rhythm game, im saying the devs dont know shit about rhythm gaming, and they have demonstrated it several times in the past (scorev2, combo scoring in std, peppy defending how easy it is to mash in om, etc)

You can most definitely trash on either games scoring mechanics, but at the end of the day, it's an excuse not to get better.

I'd LOVE to see someone even try to call Wife scoring shit. Hell, even MIGS takes a massive shit on osumania's two scoring systems.

[PixlSM]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

oh yeah, and you get a multiplier for using visual mods like hidden sudden and flashlight, despite the fact that the people who use those, use them because it makes the game EASIER to read.

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

I don't like column colours

[PixlSM]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

While im not sure about the current state of it now, iirc this was reverted

but in the case it isnt
your point's still valid
i know someone who actually NEEDS to use flashlight because he cant read the game otherwise, it's kind of the same vein of someone using high scroll speeds because of short memory span or low scroll speeds or a mental illness/challenge they have to deal with. it's really fucking unfair

I mean just the very fact that this was considered a good idea and was pushed through shows just how oblivious the devs are. It took a massive community shitstorm to get it reverted. (Also iirc FL still had the bonus but not hidden and sudden, which further goes to show they didn’t learn their lesson)

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

btw I don't know how far VSRGs are getting to e-sports

all of icy's points are valid when it comes to being a game that's enjoyable
but if osu!mania is trying to portray itself as an e-sport(contender), it should fix these issues regardless of casual enjoyment

[Xiz]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

osu is objectively better than ffr and if you think otherwise you are delusional

Exactly

Osu is 2017
FFR is 2007

[Charu]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

FFR is 2004

Fixed!

[dAnceguy117]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

Exactly

Osu is 2017
FFR is 2007

xiz is so two thousand and late

[rushyrulz]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

btw I don't know how far VSRGs are getting to e-sports

I'd be genuinelly shocked, no flabbergasted, if VSRGs ever evolved into an e-sport

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

there were at least two osu!mania tournaments though

[rushyrulz]

Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

I think there's a not-so-fine line between a couple tournaments and a full-blown esport