TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Celirra]

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Tiloco killing roundbox seems dumb, but tokzic killing him to stop the read from progressing seems possible.

So... Tiloco and Tokzic aren't w/w unless Tiloco is playing the sacrificial lamb?



I can buy into the tokzic theory...

but honestly I am a bit reluctant to follow a wagon led by you after the Light mislynch. I'd want to hear other opinions first.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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So... Tiloco and Tokzic aren't w/w unless Tiloco is playing the sacrificial lamb?

I don't know why Tokzic would post that Tiloco is town if they were W/W. I think I'm falling away from the W/W theory. I need to dig into their posts again.

[roundbox]

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It was universally Panne'd

universally Panne'd

Panne'd

Roundbox, you are Panne. You are Vanilla Town

You are Vanilla Town

[MixMasterLar]

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Well on the subject of Tokzic being a wolf:

Occam's Razor says that wolf who wanted to be on the sidelines was scrambling to save wolf partner from being CFD'd to death is likely then any w/t combo you can name.

If Tokzic was a wolf he could have been trying to claim who he thought would actually be lynched as town so when the actually flipped as town he'll look all the better for it. That's not an uncommon strat to try and pull EoD. Note how Tokzic didn't have any real progression on why he believed Triloco was town---he waited until people where bailing out of the LightKnightTrain before putting his foot down.

The trick is determining if Tokzic ever really had progression on Triloco. I guess I'm about to ISO him and find out.

[Tokzic]

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I also find it weird how tokzic was in the thread, agreed with roundbox on the tiloco read, and then sat on DBP the rest of the phase. Like, don't you move over to tiloco if you agree with the read and tiloco is a lynchable candidate? Could see tokzic/tiloco W/W pair.

/Wagon thoughts

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I never agreed with Roundbox on Tiloco. I agreed with Roundbox on Freezin. I quoted his vote on Tiloco and said "whoa". Not sure how you construed that as an agreement. I don't have a strong scumread on Tiloco right now, it's more of a lean.

And fuck yeah I sat on Dbp, I wanted to see him lynched. I still do - Dbp's reaction to pressure felt very much like his reaction to pressure in my last encounter with wolf DBP.

[Tokzic]

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oh nice is the current subject of discussion me being a wolf

[Tokzic]

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didn't expect that to be huge, but pleasantly surprised that it is

[MixMasterLar]

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Ok then that was pretty quick. Tokzic has 53 post. His first was page 13 and his last was the infamous "Triloco is town get off post" we all know.

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To Freezin:

my read on you is that there is 1-2 wolves in the set of [freezin , dbp , tiloco]

in response Freezin's post that at least two are town:

do you think it is more likely that set is t/t/t

In Response to Freezin saying that if he had money he would bet that in Vegas:

i think they're bad odds

Keep in mind that he had a vote on DBP at this time and had already said Freezin was reminding him of his wolf game---

looked at this reaction again and starting to wonder if backpack's onto something

been seeing some potential parallels to the last game i played with wolf freezin (i.e. high emotion, edgy doubts, staying active but out of the spotlight)

----and criticized Freezin's consistency ---

this post does not feel like it jives with these follow-ups

--- making it seem like of the three he liked Tri the best. I can't find him saying that he slanted him town, though. He never comes close to saying straight out that Tri is town.


This is the most progression of reads concerning Tri before Tri's rushed reads list, which Tokzic commented about:

this line earned a bunch of town points holy shit

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For the record I disagree that the post he was talking about at the end there deserves town points. Tri is literally saying he is running out of time and will give us less content then plan. That's pretty non-indicative.

[MixMasterLar]

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Oh Tokzic ninja'd me ok. Oh wait----

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I never agreed with Roundbox on Tiloco. I agreed with Roundbox on Freezin. I quoted his vote on Tiloco and said "whoa". Not sure how you construed that as an agreement. I don't have a strong scumread on Tiloco right now, it's more of a lean.

You're leaning Tri as wolf?

Where did this come from

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Post 1167 tokzic

[MixMasterLar]

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Fucking more like post 997

What has Tri done between here and now that makes you lean him scum, Tokzic?

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Fucking more like post 997

What has Tri done between here and now that makes you lean him scum, Tokzic?

Would be interested to see this read evolution as well

[Tokzic]

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Sorry, I read tokzic's first post (below) as agreement with Roundbox's vote on Tiloco, might have misread the "roundbox trending way upward" as agreement with the tiloco vote.







I have to be wrong here due to the last post of tokzic saying tiloco is town.


Tokzic back to neutral, but why post tiloco is town that hard?

Ok let me talk more about Tiloco.

Early in the game, I was scumreading Tiloco. His earlygame play did not really have any moments of towntelling, so I felt it was likely that he was just red. I had stronger scumreads on Xel and Dbp, which ended up being where I spent most of my attention then, so my read on him didn't develop much.

Towards EoD, Tiloco had moments that I felt looked VERY TOWNY. I thought the fact that in his reads list he made a point of saying he wasn't going to do complete, he wanted time for people to respond - that felt really genuine to me, a stroke that wolves would not think to include. And the way the vote unfolded felt like wolf weight being pushed around, which is when I made my TILOCO IS TOWN GET OFF post.

But after review, I do respect Tiloco's wolfgame, and I can maybe see even his towny moments as moments of wolf excellence with effort, because his towny moments were kind of spurty. Seeing his iso altogether gives me a scumlean on him.

i really want to think he's town though my gut was going fucking crazy yesterday

[Tokzic]

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How many wolves were on Nakah? :thinking:

I don't think it's very many.

[MixMasterLar]

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Early in the game, I was scumreading Tiloco.

Where? Quote that for me please. I -just- ISO'd you and didn't see it.