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  • Hakulyte
    Galaxy Collapse says hi
    • Jul 2005
    • 4697

    #541
    Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

    Originally posted by FreezinIce
    Well I think you're overestimating how easy it is to but i guess it comes down to playstyle?
    Pretty much. If you think you have a better idea, I'd like to hear about it.

    I just feel like wolves tend to stay in the null range while the top scum/towns/weaker players tend to randomly 180 from really towny to really wolfy and rip (or get NK'd if too towny).

    Null players tend to reach end game on this forum and it makes sense to me to try to target them for a change.

    That's just a personal preference.

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    • MixMasterLar
      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2006
      • 5401

      #542
      Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      hey mml what did you want to accomplish by blowing up on haku.

      that cliche is so played out its actually comical that it bothers you so much.
      I said fuck a single digit number of times, left a vote and closed the tab. If you think that's me blowing up then you don't know me well enough for all the shit talk you're spewing concerning how I play.

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      heres the kicker for me though

      this game,

      HIS PLAY IS NOT EVEN THAT BAD.

      with the exception of the massively pointless argument he had with blind over what boils down to semantics, i saw you have an aneurysm over what haku was saying and im thinking to myself

      "whats the big problem here that warrants such an unreasonably explosive response????"
      The entire "Please judge me off my meta and how this game is like this other game" defense is bullshit and if you can't see that then you are no where near as good at this game as you may think. Responding to me with a troll response is also pretty unhelpful for town.

      Also Haku does that shit every fucking game and it's tiring. I don't want to not play games because certain people are in them but fuck me I don't have the time for this.

      I would ask you to try and defend meta defense but lo and behold you pulled that shit as well. At least you where going on the offensive with it which I'm tempted to say isn't nearly as bad but defending Haku's use if it totally is.



      Originally posted by tiloco217
      It's less them arguing and more how they argued.

      Assume w/w:

      Haku might have asked the question to blind that started the interaction but he would not have jumped all over it. Haku would have just thought that his partner fucked up but how does it help his wincon to call out his partner? I really doubt Haku would start the argument if they were partners

      Assume w/t:

      These worlds have a little more merit but I don't think either are likely.

      Haku is most likely to be the wolf based on this interaction alone. I definitely think that if he felt that he had caught a town in a trap he would jump all over them. However, I think that Haku has been rather towny leading up to this interaction and town Haku would probably have the same reaction to mafia Haku here so I'm willing to keep the town read on Haku for it

      Blind being mafia is hard for me to believe because of how real he felt in his posts. I think that if Blind was mafia he would have just egged Haku on instead of bewilderingly asking what Haku was trying to do. Sure he could also go the route of trying to calm Haku down and hoping that by solving the dispute Blind would get town points from Haku but in that situation Blind's reaction wouldn't have felt real and I very much believe it was.

      Going through the scenarios I think that by far the most likely one is t/t because everything they did feels like it could easily come from a town and none of it seems likely to have been fabricated.
      So I liked this post, although I'll give Freezin some credit and side with him: They can absolutely be w/w or w/t

      Now personally considering Haku's past games and the fact that Blind has been out of it for so long, I doubt hardcore it's w/w because it did look pretty natural, but a wolf could absolutely get emotional over a spat like that because it could start a wagon on him depending on shit.

      Originally posted by tiloco217
      Don't really remember most of DBP's reads so I'd have to iso (did I use it right?) him to actually see if you're right but if you are it probably means he's town
      This is the worst fucking logic
      "Did he say what I said? Probably town"
      Like dude, what?

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      im getting vibes from last game atm with the potential risk/reward of leaving inactives alive versus the economy of killing them off. TBH for the purpose of my thinking dropping slank doesnt matter. I know its considered poor form to attack people who've dropped slank for being inactive. Well, call me a 500lb fat guy and push me off the diving board because thats what im about to do.

      There are 2 categories of players. Active and inactive

      Inactives have less posts than the host:

      Soundwave-
      Lightknight924
      mellonxcollie
      roundbox
      Cold Kitten

      I would be interested to know how many wolves people think are among actives/inactives
      Oh at least 1. Always is.
      Probably not Mellon or Roundbox as they seem like their normal town selves.
      Don't know the others well enough.

      I say if anyone has 10 post or under d2 then we revisit lynching them but on d0 I rather try and find the active wolves; theirs always some active wolves.


      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      roundbox come baccckkkkk


      what if i told you, you would die 100% of the time if you dont have at least 30 content filled posts by the end of the day.

      do you think you would make it
      Not if DOTA has anything to say about it.

      I like most of your post doing this little stay of yours tone wise but this one reeks of empty threats you know won't matter and feels off to me.

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      So yeah I think your rule might be the way to go after thinking about it more.

      But how often do you find compelling evidence d0 that leads to a wolf? I dont think i can remember a time in recent memory where thats happened?

      surely sorting out semi-inactives is better done sooner than later.
      You sure are hardcore about buddying up with Haku this game.
      noted

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      • FreezinIce
        FFR Player
        • May 2005
        • 263

        #543
        Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        You sure are hardcore about buddying up with Haku this game.
        noted
        dont be jelly dude, theres enough lovin to go around.
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        Originally posted by Charu
        Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
        Originally posted by roundbox
        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


        Originally posted by Afrobean
        Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
        Originally posted by Red
        My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
        Originally posted by TWG Ike
        SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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        • MixMasterLar
          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2006
          • 5401

          #544
          Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          dont be jelly dude, theres enough lovin to go around.
          As much as I wanted more of a response, I won't lie I laughed.

          That said

          You got more of a response?

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          • Hakulyte
            Galaxy Collapse says hi
            • Jul 2005
            • 4697

            #545
            Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

            I have MML as town at this point and the passive aggressive hate I gave him yesterday has little to do with him and a lot more with myself. It was also fairly unjustified. There was other ways to approach this.

            Part of it was how fast he town read me this game, but it's not the first time he's doing it and he has been right the majority of the time.

            I was also fairly tired that day, but that's not particularly important.

            Anyway, going to sleep.

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            • the sun fan
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 656

              #546
              Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

              votecount:
              blind (1)- Xiz
              lightknight (1)- inDheart
              Lar (2)- DBP, blind
              soundwave (1)- Manti
              Haku (1)- Lar
              mellon (1)- FreezinIce
              unvote (3)- Cold Kitten, Haku, Xel
              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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              • FreezinIce
                FFR Player
                • May 2005
                • 263

                #547
                Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                hey MML can you honestly tell me you dont look back at the times when roundbox was actually a driving force in TWG and really wish he'd finally step his game up and play like he means it again???

                if my post seemed like it was threatening him, its because it is. im tired of watching him coast through games and not contribute his thoughts unless they get pulled out like wisdom teeth
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                To let the world be.

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                Originally posted by Charu
                Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                Originally posted by roundbox
                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                Originally posted by Afrobean
                Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                Originally posted by Red
                My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                Originally posted by TWG Ike
                SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                • FreezinIce
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2005
                  • 263

                  #548
                  Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                  to be fair to haku though, manti pretty much came out and asked him how to judge his play and he answered him. It wasn't the usual fatalism and self-obsessed play. he was answering a question.
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                  Originally posted by Charu
                  Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                  Originally posted by mellon_collie
                  AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                  Originally posted by roundbox
                  AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                  Originally posted by Afrobean
                  Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                  Originally posted by Red
                  My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                  Originally posted by TWG Ike
                  SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                  • FreezinIce
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 263

                    #549
                    Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                    your heated response was to hakus one antagonistic jab towards you so ill give you the benefit of the doubt on that.

                    i just didnt want the storyline where everyone rages at haku and the thread becomes about him 24/7 to happen again (SEE: WIFOM D0)
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                    To let the world be.

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                    Originally posted by Charu
                    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                    Originally posted by roundbox
                    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                    Originally posted by Afrobean
                    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                    Originally posted by Red
                    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                    Originally posted by TWG Ike
                    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #550
                      Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      hey MML can you honestly tell me you dont look back at the times when roundbox was actually a driving force in TWG and really wish he'd finally step his game up and play like he means it again???
                      I won't lie, I fucking do all the time.

                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      if my post seemed like it was threatening him, its because it is. im tired of watching him coast through games and not contribute his thoughts unless they get pulled out like wisdom teeth
                      OK pal, don't let me stop you.

                      At the very least I'll have exactly two (2) angry Roundbox posts to read.

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                      • FreezinIce
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2005
                        • 263

                        #551
                        Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                        Most posts in thread

                        King Me Bitches.

                        back to persona 5
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                        To let the world be.

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                        Originally posted by Charu
                        Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                        Originally posted by mellon_collie
                        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                        Originally posted by roundbox
                        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                        Originally posted by Afrobean
                        Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                        Originally posted by Red
                        My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                        Originally posted by TWG Ike
                        SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5401

                          #552
                          Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          to be fair to haku though, manti pretty much came out and asked him how to judge his play and he answered him. It wasn't the usual fatalism and self-obsessed play. he was answering a question.
                          If it was that one post then yeah. If it was two then ok

                          He just kept going on about it though.

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                          • Hakulyte
                            Galaxy Collapse says hi
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 4697

                            #553
                            Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                            Originally posted by FreezinIce
                            i just didnt want the storyline where everyone rages at haku and the thread becomes about him 24/7 to happen again (SEE: WIFOM D0)
                            Oh, I was planning to dodge that by dropping my own activity so the others can get more space but...

                            Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
                            I guess I'll expand a bit.

                            I'm worried you may be trying to generate an early town persona with your effort posting and are currently laying the groundwork to UTR with that town persona intact. Its a good long term wolf play, and I want to keep tabs on it.
                            This is kind of annoying me.

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                            • MixMasterLar
                              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 5401

                              #554
                              Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                              Originally posted by Hakulyte
                              Oh, I was planning to dodge that by dropping my own activity
                              eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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                              • MixMasterLar
                                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 5401

                                #555
                                Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

                                So basically what you just admitted was you where gonna employ the same strat you got called out on and you're annoyed that Manti was correct


                                Fucking


                                Ew

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