TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #391
    Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

    If you're talking about serious lynches right with like a third of the player base yet to make a significant presence your opinion probably doesn't matter right now j/s

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    • choof
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2013
      • 8563

      #392
      Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

      no idea what mml is doing rn but i don't like it

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      • choof
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        • Nov 2013
        • 8563

        #393
        Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        If you're talking about serious lynches right with like a third of the player base yet to make a significant presence your opinion probably doesn't matter right now j/s
        okay so i know you think that you're making a good post here
        but
        you literally just said "your opinion doesn't matter because a few people haven't posted a lot"

        do you know how asinine that is?

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        • choof
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Nov 2013
          • 8563

          #394
          Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

          5/13 players have 20 posts itt as of now
          why should that cause opinions to not matter

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          • choof
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            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #395
            Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

            rather, they have less than 20 posts

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            • choof
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              • Nov 2013
              • 8563

              #396
              Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

              I would argue that the other 8 players who have more than 20 posts have posted enough content to start thinking seriously about lynches

              I seriously have no idea how you could come up with that statement

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              • choof
                Banned
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Nov 2013
                • 8563

                #397
                Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                k gnight i'm actually falling asleep

                someone else post a read list while i'm asleep so i can start the day off with some good content

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #398
                  Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                  Originally posted by choof
                  okay so i know you think that you're making a good post here
                  but
                  you literally just said "your opinion doesn't matter because a few people haven't posted a lot"

                  do you know how asinine that is?
                  We're not far enough in this game for town to form serious wagons and if you think we are you've clearly been out of the game for too long.

                  Most people don't even have a reads list and if they where to make one on the spot I bet there would be a hell of alot of "nulls" in there. This is made worst by the fact that we do have inactives who haven't made any impact (rather you want to acknowledge how significant that is or not). We need to start forming opinions on all the players before we start talking about which one to collectively off.

                  That said, I can do my best to come up with a reads list real quick, although I can promise you it's still too early to really tell for alot of players.

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                  • Hakulyte
                    Galaxy Collapse says hi
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4697

                    #399
                    Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                    I kind of hate to push and explain things so early, but I'll explain you what the hell I've been doing with my puzzles and bullshit posts before you guys think I'm just retarded.

                    Lonewolf x3 is kind of a special game because wolves don't know each others.

                    One of the ways for them to communicate with each others would be to soft-defend who they think the others are.

                    In the first pages or so, he says a lot of stuff that's not particularly alignment indicative. His entrance was kinda safe, but he just pointed at things instead of telling how he feels about the game. That's kind of easy to do and I'm not wolf leaning him for that.

                    This post made me worried:
                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    post #55 as a first post of the game would be kinda wolfy coming from anyone here but haku, but it came from haku.
                    I think he said this because he thinks I'm a wolf so, it's like he was defending me indirectly so he doesn't have to deal with me.

                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    LOOK AT AA BEING ALL DEFENSIVE AND EFFORTPOSTING AFTER BEING CALLED OUT OVER BASICALLY NOTHING
                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    because this is something that only wolves do humans will never do this, trust me I am good at this game
                    Why would you need to do this? That's post #239 -> #240. He's commenting his own post and that's kind of weird to me.
                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    Contentful Post #1

                    Gee, early game sure has changed from what it was like back in my day. RVS was so common that it was practically a requirement. Part of the shift might be that the first day phase was pretty much never longer than the rest of them, as is common now (and is a good standard, in my opinion).

                    With a little over 48 hours remaining in the phase, I would like to start seeing more players be pressured. I think we have reached the point where pressuring someone isn't all that random; however, the first player to be significantly pressured probably shouldn't be lynched this phase - at least, not on the first go. The lead wagon can come back around to them before EoD if it's actually warranted.





                    Could anyone tell me how many games this gentleman has played historically, both on FFR as well as on other sites? That could help me to properly adjust my expectations, which would likely lead to a better-developed read early on.



                    That isn't exactly what I meant. Rather than applying a general archetype to players in order to try to determine alignments, I am also trying to consider what I know about the person who makes each post and each play. You are not the only one where a situation like this one would come up; there have also been posts made by choof so far this game, for example, where I feel I must take into consideration his normal posting style and his natural tendency to, at times, react strongly over relatively minor events.

                    In this case, your entrance was clearly the product of a significant amount of time thinking, composing, and proofreading (in addition to making a few seemingly serious reads despite such little content prior to the post); for many players, that would be unusual - and thus, potentially suspicious - behavior. However, knowing both the type of player you are and even the way you post and communicate outside of The Werewolf Game, I would consider it to be fairly routine.



                    Could you elaborate on this? Just how committed are you to holding fast to it? Would you go so far as to lynch a lone inactive in the first day phase if that player has no resulting change in activity? Would you agree that establishing this type of meta can make for a very convenient out in the first day phase or two, if and when you roll wolf?



                    Could you elaborate on this? I think I've got a body read on you, but I could use some more info before reaching a definitive judgment.

                    See posts #254 for the missing quotes to understand context.

                    About the bolded: Explain to me how the hell is that a standard view of me.

                    There's only 2 ways I see this.

                    1.) You don't care about my meta for some reason and you're giving me the benefit of doubt for free. Give me a Town Game examples of me doing this. Hint: There's none. This is new.

                    You reading me like you did for posting seriously/prepared D0 is weird.

                    2.) You want to distance yourself from me because you don't want to become the center of attention. (makes sense if you're a lonewolf)

                    tl;dr: Explain to me why you read me this way.

                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    the MML vote wasn't actually for pressure, I was just sad because I was called bad, it is true though I don't know anything about twg-MML other than sunfan told me he played well last game.
                    Huh, I don't understand the thinking process behind your MML vote. Please explain.

                    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                    this is a better question than the one I answered that no one asked me lol, idk maybe you or haku or tforce, not for anything that has actually happened but rather because I perceive you to be more likely to do something that's readable than other players, which is all I can hope for d0. maybe I'm underestimating you tho you tell me :^)
                    So, what's your answer? :^)

                    ...

                    Everything else are white noise posts fmpov and does nothing to contribute to the game.

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                    • choof
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #400
                      Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      We're not far enough in this game for town to form serious wagons and if you think we are you've clearly been out of the game for too long.
                      we're roughly half way into the first day and if you don't think that even out of the top 6 posters there isn't at least one wolf then you're a plethora of negative adjectives but the one I'll use here is naive

                      Most people don't even have a reads list and if they where to make one on the spot I bet there would be a hell of alot of "nulls" in there.
                      but there's most likely going to be at least one town read and one scum read and this is content that other players can bounce off of.

                      This is made worst by the fact that we do have inactives who haven't made any impact (rather you want to acknowledge how significant that is or not). We need to start forming opinions on all the players before we start talking about which one to collectively off.
                      every game has at least one inactive; you really believe that we should wait for every player to make posts? we'll be here until 5 minutes prior to eod reading shitty posts from freezinice about why we shouldn't lynch them when we should have taken initiative and looked for a better target.


                      That said, I can do my best to come up with a reads list real quick, although I can promise you it's still too early to really tell for alot of players.
                      but can you promise me there's enough content so far to tell for myself, or haku, or AA, or dfr, or danceguy, or charu, or storn?

                      I think you're scared to make any kind of decision that has weight to it.

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                      • FreezinIce
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2005
                        • 263

                        #401
                        Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                        Page 13 of 20 and there's no sign of anything meaningful, I'll catch up at and post at work in about 10 hours. Pce nerds
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                        To let the world be.

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                        Originally posted by Charu
                        Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                        Originally posted by mellon_collie
                        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                        Originally posted by roundbox
                        AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                        Originally posted by Afrobean
                        Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                        Originally posted by Red
                        My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                        Originally posted by TWG Ike
                        SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                        • Hakulyte
                          Galaxy Collapse says hi
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #402
                          Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          Page 13 of 20 and there's no sign of anything meaningful, I'll catch up at and post at work in about 10 hours. Pce nerds
                          Oh

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                          • choof
                            Banned
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 8563

                            #403
                            Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by FreezinIce
                            Page 13 of 20 and there's no sign of anything meaningful, I'll catch up at and post at work in about 10 hours. Pce nerds
                            i'm holding you to this otherwise you can fucking die

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                            • FreezinIce
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2005
                              • 263

                              #404
                              Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                              And I realize I'm being what I hate now (inactive piece of garbage) but life literally shits on me whenever I get into a fcking twg and I'm starting to think it's not a coincidence somehow.
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                              To let the world be.

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                              Originally posted by Charu
                              Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                              Originally posted by roundbox
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                              Originally posted by Afrobean
                              Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                              Originally posted by Red
                              My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                              Originally posted by TWG Ike
                              SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                              • choof
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 8563

                                #405
                                Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                                hey I used to do the same thing and it always coincidentally happened when I was a wolf! wowee!

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