TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

i'm thoroughly disappointed in AA's contribution though tbh

See my recent post

After my exam I will be able to dedicate some time, also not sure why you expect me to have a significant amount 12-15 hours into the day, especially when 8+ of that was sleeping for me at least

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Sorry AA didn't know how busy you were.

-o24

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Me being busy wasn't related to your read though
Unless you're just being nice which is a possibility

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

So if it's off it's allowed and if it's on, it's not? I assumed I knew what that rule meant, lol. Either way, me not knowing the rule should in some way indicate I haven't been using it, and thus my posts aren't choreographed.

"I thought it was only limited to wolves" does not clear you from this suspicion, because it breaks your assertion that you didn't know the rule.

I'm not going to sit here and claim inexperience or ignorance as an excuse to make low-content/no-content posts. I have a bad feeling about that AA post, and even if he comes here and rides your dick for defending him, I'm probably still going to have that feeling. But we'll have to see.

How was it low-content? he showcased an early read, and you thought apparantly that it had enough merit to attack

Okay, so I generalized a tactic. Good to know I was wrong. I still believe that would cause chaos or at least prevent bandwagoning.

the difference here is that you used the generalization to further your argument. You seem to be waffling on what exactly you believe, since your initial post was that *wolves* would cause chaos, and it doesn't seem to be very clear based on this

As I began to refute your further points, I realized my original accusation no longer makes sense to me. MML has a town read on tokzic, which AA questioned. But if AA and tokzic are both wolves, then AA should support a town read on his fellow wolf, not question it. I don't think that clears AA for me yet, but I feel less strongly on him being a wolf. tokzic is in question too, but not scum.

I think, another big problem is that you're currently talking in absolutes
"If AA and Tokzic are wolves, then AA should support a town read" is an assertion that has no real ability to be backed at all, and doesn't give credence to any of your case, especially since it's super early in the game, and there's no actual pressure on any of the players at this moment in time.

I can promise you this is not the case. I've never talked to tokzic before. I don't know if he's town or not, but MML seems like a smart duder.

This was worded in such a strange way that I truly feel that not all of the statements in this section are true.

Anyway, YoshL, I don't think you'd be this aggressive if you weren't town, so that's my read on you.

are you basing this on meta, or are you just assuming more things to be true without much rationale

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I don't think andy's scum from this. I'll let you finish your interaction though

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

"I thought it was only limited to wolves" does not clear you from this suspicion, because it breaks your assertion that you didn't know the rule.

I thought regardless of OOTC, wolves got to chat privately at night. That was how I understood the general rule; OOTC has no bearing on whether wolves can chat privately. I should have specified at night.

How was it low-content? he showcased an early read, and you thought apparantly that it had enough merit to attack

My point was I'm trying not to make low-content posts.

I think, another big problem is that you're currently talking in absolutes

My mistake. It just seems logical that wolves would want themselves to be solid town reads rather than have any suspicion of their true identity. I didn't think so much about my sentences being absolutes rather than just sentences.

To the chat thing: Every player individually knows I am not in a private chat with them, and I know I'm not in a private chat with anyone else, so that's a shit show.

are you basing this on meta, or are you just assuming more things to be true without much rationale

Just a feeling, man. Just a feeling.

-o24

[botchi246]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Sup hos

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Hi AJ,

I'm going to assume that this interaction is over? Is that a safe assumption?

Okay the reasons why I think andy's not scum from this. This might just be the DFR in me but I don't think it's fair to automatically go to "that's def choreographed ergo wolf". That's tinfoil? level. Idk if that's the right word for it. And you say that his push was weak and there wasn't anything to go off etc. (might be paraphrasing too hard but ffr is loading slowly and I don't feel like waiting so long for quotes). It's d0. This is the second phase of actual content. There's nothing to go off of in general. At least he's trying to get something to happen. That's fair, no? Also, I'm not quite sure if at this point this interaction is alignment indicative. He's a new player, big bad bun yoshl shows up tryin to collect taxes from middle school boy andy, of course he's gonna be scared, flustered, intimidated, waffling, insert thing here. It's natural af and if you keep yelling at him and he locks up because of it and y'all lynch him. That's poor show. I'd be very disappointed and wouldn't support a lynch based on that reason.

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

dfr

cya later

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

...?

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I thought only wolves got that.

-o24

shut up

andy

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I saw that post and immediately voted, cause im sick of people fishing for dumb tells! But reading the context that came afterwards I think I might've read it in the wrong tone. D:

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Why would the wolves choreograph me calling out AA with a shitty reason anyway? Isn't it in the best interests of the wolves to not even risk losing one of their members this early by, admittedly, poor play? That's a huge gamble I'm not comfortable with accepting as a tactic.

Ah, yes, let's let the new guy make poor arguments and hope someone comes in to save his ass. It's perfect. We only risk culling our numbers, but it'll be worth it for the laughs. Scapegoats are great tactics.

A counter I can think of (careful not to use absolutes) is that the wolves would use me as a bad town ruse so the better towns would just let me twiddle my thumbs and make bad claims while they lynched other more suspect players. But then they rely on a new player in the late game where it is probably harder (I dunno) to secure the victory and that can't be the correct strategy.

And if I were a wolf, and this was our strategy, would I actually admit it openly after drawing so much attention to myself? Seems like I would want to let this slip under the radar if possible.

TL;DR: Talking to myself. This game is hard.

-o24

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

i guess im wrong about everything and my opinions dont matter and that newer or shittier players always die first without much reason because that's how this site goes. like christ, give em at least one day before you ruin it. not all shitty or new people are wolves. it's like wolfe or aryxi getting mislynched every fucking second it's awful and i hate it. i hate watching it. i hated playing it when it happened to me.

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

haku, early red blaster, and maybe early zenith also qualify (idr about zenith) and a plethora of others