Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

[hi19hi19]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

Another really important consideration, and I'm not making this up:

Make sure your keyboard is mic'd appropriately so that the stream can actually hear it.

The keytaps are like half of what makes Stepmania impressive to witness.

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

Sadly, very few viewers are going to be able to tell the difference between what Staiain AAs and what, say, I play to AA.

as a side note very few people are going to be able to tell the difference between a dump and a legit file and I would argue that the existence of "quality dumps" is one of the cornerstones of what truly separates sm from other games

although I agree they should be avoided unless played as one of the last charts to showcase a "lulz level"

but honestly i think the charts that you end up playing are largely irrelevant

i think in order to properly appeal to the speedrunning crowd you essentially have to convince them that what you're doing isn't mindless mashing

for example, when playing a game at 30 fps frame perfect timing falls within 33ms timing windows

frame perfect timing is a concept speedrunners can relate to and even on files of considerable difficulty 70%+ of your inputs fall within frame perfect timing

this should be something that speedrunners can find to be impressive regardless of whether or not they can play the game

e: damn you ninja'd me in large part while i was typing this and eating breakfast

[ItsOnlyDanO]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

actually knew about this for a couple of days when the AGDQ speed running list came out, pretty nice you managed to get this in to the event

The only concern I have is people having no clue what's going on when you are playing, but both hi19 and mina have given good ideas for ways to appeal to the crowd/ make them feel not so confused

[hi19hi19]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

A big part of it too is going to be addressing the questions you always get and the banter between levels

Like I can tell you right now, someone is always going to be curious why "Marvelous" is better than "Perfect" ("wtf how can something be better than perfect") and being able to joke about how it honestly really doesn't make any fucking sense, and maybe being able to explain the origins of the system (Perfect came from DDR, but then it was realized that something stricter was needed) and, as Mina said, you can even go into the millisecond window (explained in terms of frames, which is something the speedrun crowd is very familiar with) to blow some more minds once they realize "Marvelous" is literally frame perfect.

Also being able to talk while you play, which I know you are already really good at, is something a lot of people find impressive.


EDIT- another question, which I'm sure you are familiar with from streaming, is "do you just memorize everything?"
Being able to answer that with "no" convincingly is important. If people don't believe me I ask them to pick a pack from the pack list I've never even heard of and sightread some files, but you're not going to have that luxury so figuring out another way to explain it is important.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

Just play my files

[noname219]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

EDIT- another question, which I'm sure you are familiar with from streaming, is "do you just memorize everything?"
Being able to answer that with "no" convincingly is important. If people don't believe me I ask them to pick a pack from the pack list I've never even heard of and sightread some files, but you're not going to have that luxury so figuring out another way to explain it is important.

Crowd participation would be cool too, like making the crowd choose between 3-4 short different songs midway through your run. (even if that won't really prove that you can sightread files, it would create an interaction between you and the viewers)

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

Or just play my files

[L.B.D.D]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

i just thought of this randomly at 2AM

i nominate leonid's pokemon medley

[AlexDest]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

i just thought of this randomly at 2AM

i nominate leonid's pokemon medley

at 1.5x rate

[ATTang]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

i just thought of this randomly at 2AM

i nominate leonid's pokemon medley

at 1.5x rate

at 1.5x rate

[storn42]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

what you need to try and do is tell everyone that you are playing on a dance pad, and only later reveal after the slot that you were actually just doing it on a keyboard.

[Dynam0]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

imo the gameplay absolutely 100% needs to be paired with commentary that does a good job of explaining just how nuts said gameplay is and the game itself in general. Not many viewers will understand what stepmania is so a brief "history" so to speak during setup/warm up song is a good idear. I'm sure the freeware/copyright issue will need to be raised etc.

This is similar to the Tetris block where you have someone playing a game fast with no real "best time" implications so explaining the frame-perfect aspect of timing is something speed-runners would be wowed by. Also need to keep things fresh and make sure the files chosen have some kind of climax theory or progression to them with an obvious high speed area. (this will be tough to keep interesting)

I agree that some sort of reading showcase would be incredibly entertaining too but there aren't many who practice this sort of thing anymore (where are you leonid)

Congrats dude!
I'm wishing like hell I could make it to this..

[lurker]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

definitely do not assume there won't be a problem with bms music (did you hear about the shit that went down over maniera's o!m chart)
anyone who's given their blessings to osu (e.g helblinde) would probably be cool with it if you contacted them

[qqwref]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

The advice in this thread is great (especially hi19). To prove you are sightreading, maybe you could play a 16th jack/jumpstream file that would be moderately hard on S. Shuffle, and explain that it completely randomizes the chart, so there's no way you could memorize it all.

[[TeRa]]

Re: Guys, I got StepMania into AGDQ!!

huge grats on getting into gdq i very much look forward to watching this =)))