TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

But nice block of text though!

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

so my question is, why?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

I hope you show the same charisma to Tokzic when he shows up, dohoho.

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

you can't go around saying "oh i think charu is a wolf, because he thinks sunfan is a wolf" because that reasoning is a piece of shit and shallow as fuck

when it becomes "i think charu is a wolf, because his basis of thinking sunfan is a wolf and his responses to every single post has been ignoring the questions and attacks on his actions and behavior, rather responding to the shallow unimportant questions", then a read is a read, and i can invest and look into the read more deeply, and give it more credit

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

like, in the end, everything that charu's saying only serves to reinforce my argument - especially every time he ignores the bulk of the reasoning of the post, and tries to get away with the simplest response possible

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

So, the simplest way I can explain my strong belief that sunfan is a woof is by... well, quoting everything of his that I found to be incriminating to him in my eyes.

I won't comment on any of them, I'm just gonna let the quotes speak for themselves. If you want me to write it out, then lol, I'm not a big fan of super long posts.

Pandering to town:

I'm very glad that Charu is in this game
Mainly because he will never be able to lynch me
BUT HE KEEPS TRYING

I THOUGHT THE SAME THING
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT THAT READ TO BE TRUE
asdf

who do you think is a wolf so far
pick 3

Working on channeling my inner Manti atm in order to break the setup
I \think\ if a few things are done towns chances go way up, namely involving EVERYONE in the game cooperating with hider-shenanigans

I will choose to let this slide because my early shitposting was a bit awkward and I have faith in myself to get townread

but I am a \bit\ worried you feel this way

plop is \probably\ town for his big ass reads list I really liked the thought processes behind it

this is the most interesting thing you have ever said in TWG
not being sarcastic, actually
I don't know if I can determine your alignment from this but I love you for posting it, not even because its a mindmeld
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Rolehunting

btw @tracker/vigi
you haven't decided your role yet
the only situation where you're not completely dumb for choosing tracker over vigi is if both of the other town roles are forced to claim today, and town deserves to lose if that happens
pick vigi between the two

while it gives the hider one more target to die to, that shouldn't matter too too much if what I'm playing with works out

I may or may not be the hider, but if I was the hider I would be the hider hiding behind x person
x is yet to be determined
(this is a preview to what I have planned)

big post its pretty easy to follow though

HIDER STUFF:
Similar to how everyone claims a green-check in the champion's game, everyone should soft who they would be hiding behind if they were the hider. This gives a chance for the real hider to give their info in advance, and, in the event of their death, will give info regarding someone who is most likely scum. ITS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE REAL HIDER DOES NOT LIE ABOUT WHO THEY HIDE BEHIND.

A brief showing of the order of operations of roles
Tracker/vigi chooses their role (Role conversion)
Hider chooses a player to hide behind
Woles/Vigi (if present after n1) choose a target to kill
Detective/Psychologist/Tracker (if present after n1) choose a player to investigate*
Hider dies if hiding behind a killing role (Wolves/vigi) OR if the person they are hiding behind is shot
Other Deaths
Investigative Roles receive results
*It is important to note that the Detective and the Psychologist receive their result AFTER the killing has taken place, making the Detective slightly stronger and the Psychologist slightly weaker.

So, with this in mind, the Hider has some interesting interactions with some of the roles, namely the vigi. By each player hypoing their future "hiding" for each night, this gives town info in the event of the hider's death. This is stronger than each player claiming a green check in the champion's game, because the hider can soft a future red check that gets revealed to town in the event of their death.

Yes, the hider does die if they hide behind the vigilante. But this isn't really a bad thing. Aside from the SK, which is obviously not present in this setup, vigilante is probably the hardest role for scum to successfully fakeclaim (if you don't know why I won't spoil it). So, if the hider dies, and mafia one way or another fakeclaims vigi, fun things will happen, and town will be in a pretty alright position still.

Everyone should, at some point before EOD, claim who they will be hiding behind. Its the best possible plan. If someone wants to be a dumbass and claim I'm rolehunting for this post, go ahead, I could use a good laugh today.

and yet, it either gives myself (the hider) proper cover to leave who I am hiding behind OR gives the real hider proper cover to do the same thing

so it doesn't matter who starts it, really

Possible distancing?

she's a good player capable of fooling me.
I had her as a scum-lean early most of the last game we played together until she had a really good response to me calling her scum
she'll probably do something at some point that I find either REALLY wolfy or REALLY townie, based on what I expect from her as a player

how is it role-digging please explain to me how it is role-digging

What is a shit vote?

Because if the mod just confirmed greg as town, im gonna laugh so hard at how weird this forum is

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, a post that means nothing = shit post
a vote that means nothing = shit vote
looooooooooooooooooool though if bunnies ever flips wolf I'm pseudo-confirmed

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

Definitely expecting YoshL to comment on such that it's just a bunch of quotes.

Waiting for next YoshL replay in... 1... 2... 3...

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

By that extension, you can see I have a faint air of suspicion to the other two wolves. Bun and rzr!

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

Though it's really weak with bun, but since she's somewhat of a topic...

I definitely still suspect rzr thoooooough

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

is pandering to town necessarily bad?
you're still offering no reasoning, so write that shit out fucko
because all i see from thos quotes is sunfan trying his best early game
regardless, this is a tone read, doesn't really offer much, especially given that it can be taken many ways

rolehunting
he's not rolehunting. he's trying to understand the best case of action for the mechanics, and there's nothing wrong with that
if you really wanted to be consistent though, you'd have been harping on me for also doing the same thing when i came into the game.

distancing
this would be true if both sunfan and bun are wolves, and you're still assuming that sunfan is a wolf. the assumption is there, but you still have never given any good concrete reasoning

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

slam chop dunkey

charu is doing some massive saveface.jpg and scramble.png

but i'm like

nope.avi

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

I don't exactly know what you expect me to write, bucko!

I feel those quotes suffice me enough, so therefore that's all ya gonna get.

And saveface.jpg? Sorry, but I'm more doing a facepalm.mp4 for you.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

Over... and over... and over...

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

...I feel like we're just gonna go in circles.

K, YoshL, who's my partners? You said storn and... erm... who else? Lets see...

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

charu/storn/xel

Ah, there it is.