Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates]

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #16
    Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

    I already intended on asking permission because it just seems like the right thing to do.

    Asking WinDEU for Big Bad Queen Chrysalis (not in the pack; I'll get to those later): www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZEMShdIHFc

    EDIT: some of this list is from the MGD series, which to my knowledge only needs Novice charts, yes?
    EDIT #2: if this pack does get far, please give me the opportunity to check all of the files and normalize the syncs for any files that might not be perfect
    Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-28-2014, 01:38 PM.

    Comment

    • CondorTalon
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2013
      • 14

      #17
      Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

      Originally posted by Wafles
      why?
      Originally posted by rikame
      ...for two reasons. The first is that they may not want all or some of their files to be in the pack. The second, which has a good chance of applying to mute if you didn't ask already, is that the files you're using might be old versions (he constantly tweaks his files). Another example of this is actually my personal experience with that gigapack thing compiled on SMOnline (I didn't hear a word about it until after the fact). A lot of my old, really, really shitty files were used in it. Some I didn't want to be revived from the dead at all and, more tragically, I had already completely rewritten many of the files that were used which were millions of times more playable and those are obviously not what made it into the pack. Just food for thought.
      Like...

      EDIT: also, saying
      Originally posted by Wafles
      ...so long as you're not modifying the original difficulties...
      when two of the points in the OP are
      Originally posted by Mollocephalus
      make modifications to improve the playability
      Softening abrupt and unreadable bpm gimmicks, cutting boring/repetitive sections of the file, fixing the sync or the bpm, correcting stepping inconsistencies or mistakes; anything that can help to make the file a better file.

      if a file makes use of hard bracketing
      Put the bracket chart into edit and duplicate it into the original difficulty without the brackets, so it can be played normally. People who don't have perfectly raised pads can't play that kind of file.
      makes no sense.
      Last edited by CondorTalon; 06-28-2014, 01:51 PM.

      Comment

      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #18
        Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

        yeah... I don't think it's a good idea to modify the original difficulties.

        The purpose of this pack should be to supplement the files so that they are fully charted. Modifying the files means you're deviating away from the stepartist's original intent.

        Also, confirmed for Big Bad Queen Chrysalis, yay.

        Comment

        • Valex
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 4

          #19
          Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

          I don't care if you use my files, but don't modify anything in any chart I wrote without my permission first

          Comment

          • firemon22
            Forum User
            • Oct 2004
            • 636

            #20
            Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

            can u make list of the files that are in each pack in the first post

            https://soundcloud.com/djbdock acapellas over my beats
            http://tuneport.com/profile/bdockbeats my beats for yall to rap on

            Comment

            • Mollocephalus
              Custom User Title
              • Jul 2009
              • 2608

              #21
              Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

              Oh, i guess it makes sense to ask beforehand. Most of the files there didn't need to be modified at all, and as i progress towards more recent releases there will probably never be any need to touch anything at all, but i already did some changes. For example gpop's kung-fu rider has mudkyp's gfx set, and gpop's expert chart was replaced with mudkyp's

              Another minor but notable change i made is, for a majority of the songs, to change the preview music to the most catchy and distinctive section of the song.

              This project wasn't originally meant to be a community project, so i did not really think about asking around at first. I guess it's mandatory that i make a spreadsheet with all the edits made until now, as well as better organizing the files. If your file is in and do not agree with something, just let me know.
              Last edited by Mollocephalus; 06-28-2014, 06:08 PM.

              Comment

              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #22
                Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                Yeah, make a spreadsheet with a list of all of the files for yourself, and then make a dropbox so that people can make changes/fixes and continually update it as if it were a repository.

                Alternatively, you could host something like this on a place like sourceforge if you wanted to since the purpose of SF is for project management (albeit, for programming usually).

                Comment

                • rikame
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 2

                  #23
                  Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                  Everything CT said aside, even just using files can be problematic if you don't seek permission. I don't know if OP Momo asked, say, mute or mudkyp about any of this but I'd be a bit concerned if he didn't. I don't see how it's difficult to ask, most of the users who have files in here are pretty easy to track down and writing a short PM doesn't take much longer than playing a single file out of the likely thousands that OP is combing through for this compilation. Granted, there are some files (especially the ancient ones) where nobody may know who stepped it but if OP makes a reasonable effort that could reduce a lot of the problems. I don't know what the norms are for some people but the reactions from many people - including those with files in these packs - to Horsey's Hardcore Workout and such was certainly not positive.

                  All that aside for a moment, have a repository would be cool because you could track the changes made and have accountability for them. Also I can contribute a few files.

                  Comment

                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #24
                    Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                    Rikame implicitly brings up another good point: what if the player would like to make the easier difficulties themselves? They have more right than we do as the original stepartist of the files, haha.

                    Comment

                    • Mollocephalus
                      Custom User Title
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2608

                      #25
                      Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                      I think it's a very reasonable and valid argument, at this point i'll make it so anyone involved - actively or passively - knows of the project and gives permission.

                      Give me a few days to organize and i'll upload an open dropbox or a MEGA account with folders + a spreadsheet so contributing will be easier and checking out stuff won't be a problem anymore for anyone.

                      Comment

                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #26
                        Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                        Posting in here for two things:

                        a.) to tell you that I haven't forgotten about this -- I've been working on my r21freak Doubles Comp II file a lot lately and it's been the focus of any instance that I open my SM build for making ITG files; you'll see Big Bad Queen Chrysalis from me soon.

                        b.) I haven't forgotten about this at all, and I'm just bumping it to make sure that no one else does.

                        Question: are you looking to fill out full double charts too?

                        Comment

                        • Mollocephalus
                          Custom User Title
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2608

                          #27
                          Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                          If enough people are willing to contribute, definitely yes! But i don't think it's necessary. Afterall for a new player getting the hang of singles is already enough. :P

                          Comment

                          • Arntonach
                            Owlbears Rock!
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2494

                            #28
                            Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                            Hey mollo you can use any of my simfiles if you want, if you want to. Don't know which ones' you'd like though. :/
                            pack of hard stuffs

                            pack of my stuffs

                            Comment

                            • Arntonach
                              Owlbears Rock!
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2494

                              #29
                              Re: Huge pad pack compilation project - looking for helpers [check page 1 for updates

                              Bumping to remind everyone of this. Also are long and marathon charts okay?
                              pack of hard stuffs

                              pack of my stuffs

                              Comment

                              Working...