DP/RATO move to tokens?

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  • Ohaider
    FFR Veteran
    • Jun 2012
    • 2893

    #16
    Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

    Yes plz

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    • RagedBerserker
      Hello Kitty
      • Sep 2004
      • 1296

      #17
      Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

      Originally posted by Fission
      so? moving them to token level ranks is just like saying "i AAAed everything i'm done" even though you really didn't.
      Only difference is people will say, "I AAA'd everything I'm done, except RATO and DP, but they are shitty files so who cares."

      I'm just an old boy now

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      • Fission
        no
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2004
        • 1850

        #18
        Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

        Originally posted by DarkZtar
        if dp and rato became tokens it wouldn't make a good score on them any less impressive
        i never said that. i said there is less incentive to play them.

        Originally posted by DarkZtar
        ~ FFR isn't a game that should be judged on "completion"~
        care to elaborate?

        there are stat bars that lists how many AAAs, FCs, and tier points you have. this is indicative of the gaming being about completion. if it isn't suppose to be, just remove them altogether.

        Originally posted by RagedBerserker
        Only difference is people will say, "I AAA'd everything I'm done, except RATO and DP, but they are shitty files so who cares."
        you are making an assumption that everybody feels this way. that isn't true, i know players who don't think this.

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6207

          #19
          Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

          Yes to Death Piano to move to tokens.

          Don't know about RATO. That song isn't as rediculous as Death Piano in my opinion. If anything, and I might get some hate for this, I don't see it as a joke file like I did before when I was bad at guru's and high guru's.

          I don't know, maybe it was intended to be a joke file. If anything, the mass amount of confusing noises that song makes kind of fits the file in a weird sort of way that I don't mind that there's 50 notes coming at you in a span of one second.


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • Velocity
            Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Administrator
            • Jul 2007
            • 1819

            #20
            Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

            Move it already.

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            • DarkZtar
              (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2007
              • 668

              #21
              Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

              Originally posted by Fission
              i never said that. i said there is less incentive to play them.
              I wasen't responding to your point, but if you insist I do, I don't think there was a whole lot of incentive to play them in the first place (considering the vast majority of players have to resort to mashing both files which in all honesty is not particularly fun~)

              Originally posted by Fission
              there are stat bars that lists how many AAAs, FCs, and tier points you have. this is indicative of the gaming being about completion. if it isn't suppose to be, just remove them altogether.
              Then we just view the game differently. imo stats on FFR are more just to give you a sense of how much you've accomplished rather than tell you how much further you have to go~

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              • Fission
                no
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2004
                • 1850

                #22
                Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                Originally posted by DarkZtar
                I wasen't responding to your point
                well you quoted me. what was i suppose to think?

                Originally posted by DarkZtar
                I don't think there was a whole lot of incentive to play them in the first place (considering the vast majority of players have to resort to mashing both files which in all honesty is not particularly fun~)
                same argument can be made about other FSOs and high FGOs

                Originally posted by DarkZtar
                stats on FFR are more just to give you a sense of how much you've accomplished
                right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.

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                • TC_Halogen
                  Rhythm game specialist.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 19376

                  #23
                  Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                  Originally posted by rushyrulz
                  I can tell when I'm not wanted
                  But yeah, these two files are complete shitfests in comparison to everything else. They're obviously joke files and my ranks aren't laughing.
                  D:

                  I meant on this file, not in general T_T

                  @ Fission: you make a good point, but it's pretty bad when players that were working on their ranks had no intentions on touching it. When I had an average rank of < 1.05, I would work on all of my other files, but never touch Death Piano or RATO because they truly are just... unfun.

                  RATO requires luck because there are obscenely fast bursts that obviously have to be cheated with rhythmically sub-divided jumptrilling. For me, DP isn't that bad; it's very possible to AAA. RATO is more up my alley with the heavy jumpstreaming and strange patterning, but the file really is bullshit (sorry DGK).

                  EDIT: in your defense... getting a good file at this difficulty level is nearly impossible.

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                  • mi40
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3655

                    #24
                    Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                    can we just remove rato from game and move dp to skill token

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                    • RagedBerserker
                      Hello Kitty
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1296

                      #25
                      Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                      Originally posted by Fission
                      right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.
                      By this logic we should remove token level stats altogether and make all songs part of public level stats.

                      I'm just an old boy now

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #26
                        Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                        Oh, I guess this is as good place as any, but I find Death Piano harder to score on than RATO.

                        I think the difficulties should be switched for those two, the 99 being DP and 98 being RATO, heh.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • mi40
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3655

                          #27
                          Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                          the final boss is revo if u remove dp/rato from public levelrank btw

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #28
                            Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                            also, in before Robotomy

                            EDIT: haha Charu -- nice opposite thinking we have comparing DP and RATO

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                            • yo man im awesome
                              soleil ardent
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2007
                              • 6514

                              #29
                              Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                              final boss should be robotomy; yes I saw you AJ

                              Originally posted by choof
                              you double dad loving dipshit
                              Originally posted by t-rogdor
                              dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
                              Originally posted by smartdude1212
                              I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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                              • mi40
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 3655

                                #30
                                Re: DP/RATO move to tokens?

                                Originally posted by Fission
                                right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.
                                well theres some files that have 1,2 or no AAA's

                                jamais vu & a quick death, 2 aaas by aj and doss
                                crowdpleaser, 2 aaas by samurai and owa
                                m8bit tour & almost there, 2 aaas by samurai and doss

                                do i smile, 1 aaa by samurai
                                winter wind etude, 1 aaa by doss
                                system doctor, 1 aaa by doss
                                rave7, 1 aaa by doss
                                revo etude, 1 aaa by doss
                                husigi, 1 aaa by doss

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