Stepping Stones of Stepmania (Submissions Open!)

[dAnceguy117]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

submitted. revved up & ready 2 revise (hopefully)

Suggestion: Get actual casuals (as in people who just started playing this game) to play test the files to get the absolute most out of what you're aiming for. If you don't get feedback from your target demographic, what is the point of making a pack that's supposed to cater to them in the first place?

I wanna say casual players aren't the target audience, though. sounds more like "players outside of the top 50 in the world." let's get some clarification from Anna Rue.

Also to add, you should absolutely encourage multiple difficulties for a pack like this.

completely agreed

[rCaliberGX]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

Before the 99-point difficulty scale, FFR rated files on a scale from 1 to 12. Difficulty level 10 was called Very Challenging or VC, while difficulty 11 was "For Masters Only" or FMO.

In modern times, VC would be around the 55-65 range. Anything more would definitely be pushing it for this pack.

Thanks.

I'm guessing this pack is going to try and bridge the gap between easy pad songs and hardpain packs?

[mi40]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

i was actually having a really hard time coming up with a pack name and the pack name isnt really concrete yet

i've been asking around on what to name the pack so if any of you have suggestions for the pack, that would be great


but yes, we're trying to bridge the gap between something like easy DDR songs and the easy files of let's say.. DCP & KBCMPs
i don't think the pack will be for absolutely new players because the completely new players probably won't be able to reach this pack (unless they actively search for new beginner packs)
anyhow the pack's target difficulty range is preferably below VC (ffr difficulty) and above DDR charts




oh and about the new players actually playtesting the files, i have a couple irl friends who have been interested in ffr/sm for a long time but never got good at it because they were busy playing sc2/league, hopefully these guys will help me gauge how friendly the files are, one of em plays spread one of em plays one handed

[mi40]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

changed rules to this following gd's suggestion, not too harsh but should help

A file can have as many stepcharts as you like, but a minimum of 2 charts for each song is required - they don't have to be vastly different but preferably one should target the completely new-player demographic and one should target the rookie demographic!

[Ohaider]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

Diggin the idea

[AlexDest]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

gonna be submitting Centaur

[Choofers]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

Suggestion: Get actual casuals (as in people who just started playing this game) to play test the files to get the absolute most out of what you're aiming for. If you don't get feedback from your target demographic, what is the point of making a pack that's supposed to cater to them in the first place?

A panel of judges is fine for accepting submissions and all, but you should still have a select few people who aren't all that great at arrow smash games to play the pack's files before release and let them leave their commentary/feedback. Having any "veteran" players and simfile authors play testing files prior to release should be absolutely out of the question considering your target demographic.

I asked my brother if he'd be down to play this pack after it's completed, but he might even be down to playtest some files. I'll check with him.

[intensez]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

ok as a player who has made over 30+ quad files i should definitely playtest/judge some of the files in this pack

[LunaXII]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

I actually like the idea of a chart for complete newbies. I remember the first day I tried four finger I couldn't even hit simple jumps bcuz coordination too fucking hard. Also minijacks were impossible for like 6 months.

[James May]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

welp, debating on sending Mudkip over. Might revamp Mudkip heavy in most parts of the file. But it has 4 charts so won't have to worry about making multiple charts zzz

Also probably sending
1) monocyclefromhell (going to have maybe 3 charts. Main kb chart is going to be in oni, others are going to be in standard & light, which are mainly intended for this pack)
2) Bgrusko Meow (3 charts as well)

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

I really like this idea. I'll definitely contribute some songs to this, although I have a feeling I'm going to have trouble finding the middle-ground for this pack, haha.

[blindreper1179]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

welp, debating on sending Mudkip over. Might revamp Mudkip heavy in most parts of the file. But it has 4 charts so won't have to worry about making multiple charts zzz

Also probably sending
1) monocyclefromhell (going to have maybe 3 charts. Main kb chart is going to be in oni, others are going to be in standard & light, which are mainly intended for this pack)
2) Bgrusko Meow (3 charts as well)

What about your Roxas file? That would be perfect for this pack.

[James May]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

What about your Roxas file? That would be perfect for this pack.

I actually forgot about that lmao. But the problem is making a chart easier/harder than what it's already is...

[rCaliberGX]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

Eh, should we cover a large range of difficulty with charts or 2/3 charts with "medium" difficulty? I've made heavy and oni charts on the file I'm submitting, but idk if I should go down to light (or maybe beginner).

[James May]

Re: Quadbait Pack submissions

Eh, should we cover a large range of difficulty with charts or 2/3 charts with "medium" difficulty? I've made heavy and oni charts on the file I'm submitting, but idk if I should go down to light (or maybe beginner).

Go on, it's encouraged to cater to everyone in the spectrum :3