TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

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  • Vendetta21
    Sectional Moderator
    Sectional Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 2745

    #556
    Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

    yeah i'm sorry i have lost all momentum. i was fairly convinced that dance wasn't a wolf and seeing that he was has kind've taken the wind out of my sails, i was hoping to stand back and watch others for awhile because my perspective thus far on this game has obviously been off.

    my instinct says AC1 (for having an air of exhibitionism) or TPS (but mostly because he is suffering from a similar pattern of behavior as me)

    one of the things about nabbing a wolf is that you don't get the next day angry finger pointing that fuels D2. jayde and manti were both obviously human and great kills.

    and i just haven't had the motivation to do a full on analysis of dance yet, which should be done by everyone really

    AC1

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    • meno_rocks123
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2005
      • 2324

      #557
      Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

      Sup guys, obligatory human remark.

      I'll be reading this thread over the next 8-9 hours. Stay tuned.

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      • Vendetta21
        Sectional Moderator
        Sectional Moderator
        • Aug 2006
        • 2745

        #558
        Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

        cedolad

        he said nothing about danceguy, who in turn said nothing about him all of day one. he was the number one hit on my wolfdar starting from his first posts in the thread.

        he claimed vigi immediately after that exact role was being discussed heavily. there was brief discussion of having him confirm somehow, which as soon as the topic was dropped he stopped caring about that.

        he didn't vigi anyone last night and has contributed absolutely fucking nothing to the game except a couple bad votes.

        also i am a seer











        because there could be anywhere between 0-3 seers you really can't accept what i say on face value and must instead question the nature of my role claim in the context where it arose, and the behaviors following it.

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        • cedolad
          moonchild~
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2007
          • 6879

          #559
          Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

          Actually I was trying to bring the topic of my vigi kill. We almost made a hasty lynch on yoman without even considering the possibility of who could also be killed during the night phase. Since night talking is off and all.

          And if you're a seer, why didn't you seer me N1 then? If you had all these suspicions about me. I know I haven't contributed much because honestly majority of what I could say, had already been said. As you have such a negative connotation against me, me reiterating someone's point again would strike you as off.

          So anyway back to the task at hand, who am I killing and why?

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          • cedolad
            moonchild~
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2007
            • 6879

            #560
            Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

            and you may see my votes as bad, but they were helpful to me.

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            • j-rodd123
              End of the road
              • Oct 2006
              • 3692

              #561
              Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

              while im reviewing cuz i had a bunch of lab stuff to do and had to stop mid-analysis last night, can someone write out the possibilities of game structure based on claims.

              Originally posted by FictionJunction
              wow

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              • j-rodd123
                End of the road
                • Oct 2006
                • 3692

                #562
                Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                also yea this bandwagon was sketch. i'm not clearing any suspicion on yoman but idk felt awkward. i'm curious about V's seer choices too, seems he likes to say stuff like partially incriminating himself when he's not town

                Originally posted by FictionJunction
                wow

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                • AC1speakerbox
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1242

                  #563
                  Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  cedolad

                  he said nothing about danceguy, who in turn said nothing about him all of day one. he was the number one hit on my wolfdar starting from his first posts in the thread.

                  he claimed vigi immediately after that exact role was being discussed heavily. there was brief discussion of having him confirm somehow, which as soon as the topic was dropped he stopped caring about that.

                  he didn't vigi anyone last night and has contributed absolutely fucking nothing to the game except a couple bad votes.

                  also i am a seer











                  because there could be anywhere between 0-3 seers you really can't accept what i say on face value and must instead question the nature of my role claim in the context where it arose, and the behaviors following it.
                  I was actually thinking it was really weird that you had relaxed your playing style so much since that time. Welcome back.

                  In any case, I am still of the belief that if you're going the non-contributory player lynch route, there are better candidates. He's almost definitely not SK because coming out as vigi and then killing an obvious human is about the dumbest thing SK can do.

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                  • j-rodd123
                    End of the road
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3692

                    #564
                    Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                    breaking up thoughts as i go. it's kind of weird cedo kept his vote on me at the end of the phase instead of joining a wagon. why did you do this cedo? thinning votes like that is a pet peeve of mine

                    Originally posted by FictionJunction
                    wow

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                    • j-rodd123
                      End of the road
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3692

                      #565
                      Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                      Originally posted by yo man im awesome
                      Oh my lol, this is like a carbon copy of day 1 so far.

                      I'm curious, why do you guys think that because Danceguy was a wolf, him calling human on somebody immediately makes them a wolf? In the ~3 games i've played of TWG before this, including the one I actually played as the Master Wolf, I saw in the post game that wolves were calling humans human, but were calling out their own teammates in order to separate themselves from the other wolves. Sure, you could argue I could be distancing myself from possible allies, but there are only so many defenses that can be made when put under sudden and constant pressure.

                      Since Freaky so kindly asked, and since I was going to make a post for this anyway, I'm placing my vote on J-Rodd since I want to hear what he thinks of this bandwagon before I watch myself get lynched for radical suspicions, and considering I've seen him watching the thread (not at this moment, but over the course of this current day phase), like me, and yet still no posts from him. Do you find me more towny or wolfy, J-Rodd?

                      Honestly I think some of you people think too hard when you play, lol. I really don't find this to be the kind of game that requires such a huge in-depth psychoanalysis of the players.
                      people think you because of your actions day 1. jayde, a confirmed human now who made an excellent analysis post, labelled you as wolfy. your best defense was from V who made that vote chart which suggested voting you was 'safe'. now cool you want to hear from me and i will share my thoughts, but why don't you say who you think is wolfy? what are you waiting for?

                      i had a wolf in you and freaky, and when my suspicion diminished in freaky it grew very fast in you. you haven't done much screaming town to me, so you are still on the bottom half of the list for me. other people residing there are zoshi, tps, viccica.

                      viccica did defend danceguy, but she did it when he was one vote away from a lynch. seems like a dumb move if you were associated with that player, so that relieves some suspicion on her. however it also could have been a light defense since it was a logical point, and if it didn't work then would be easy to back up.

                      Originally posted by FictionJunction
                      wow

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                      • Vendetta21
                        Sectional Moderator
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2745

                        #566
                        Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                        jesus christ why would anyone believe im the seer given the context i revealed in

                        we are looking at these set-ups as potential enemies:
                        TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
                        TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
                        TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
                        T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
                        0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

                        we have two kills last night indicating a serial killer or a vigilante-type role on top of the first supposed "vigilante." the chances of having two vigilantes (given each roll of a vigilante has a 9% chance) is slim, and the chance of having a full vigilante and a one-shot vigi wasting it on night 1 is even slimmer. we have a 50% chance to have a serial killer so go reads bayes theorem and whack off to it for about five minutes and then come back and assume we probably have a serial killer given the two deaths (and also the death choices, too)

                        so we are looking at one of these set-ups:
                        TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
                        T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

                        putting the human configuration at one of the following if we assume cedolad is a vigilante which is VV:
                        VVD( )TTT
                        VVD( )( )( )T

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                        • j-rodd123
                          End of the road
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3692

                          #567
                          Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                          no one believed you which is why we wanted to hear your seer choices, how don't you get that?

                          Originally posted by FictionJunction
                          wow

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                          • j-rodd123
                            End of the road
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3692

                            #568
                            Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            VVD( )( )( )T
                            if cedo is vig, my role means it has to be this

                            Originally posted by FictionJunction
                            wow

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                            • AC1speakerbox
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1242

                              #569
                              Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                              Jesus Christ you had all better be lying about your roles

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                              • Vendetta21
                                Sectional Moderator
                                Sectional Moderator
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 2745

                                #570
                                Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                                Originally posted by j-rodd123
                                no one believed you which is why we wanted to hear your seer choices, how don't you get that?
                                because you didn't italicize your sarcasm

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