TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

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  • James May
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2012
    • 3817

    #91
    Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

    Originally posted by Viccica
    Can we pick up where we left off last game before it exploded and kill James May?
    Viccica

    Not sure why you are insistent in killing me...besides, shouldn't carry anything from previous games to this~


    (forgot to bold her name on my first post, just realized it now -_-...)

    @Zoshi: Any particular reason why?
    bananas


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    • AC1speakerbox
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2006
      • 1242

      #92
      Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

      I'm going to follow my last line of thought and assert that in this stage where we can't draw any information from wolf activity, we should be dividing contributory behavior and selfish behavior from the pool.

      yoman has been so kind as to actually let us know he was trying to fit in.

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      • Tps222
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2004
        • 6169

        #93
        Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

        Originally posted by cedolad
        well if you read my post maybe that would explain a thing or two lol

        I just got home, realizing the game started. slowly starting my psychoanalysis of each of you.

        vendetta
        I'm with V on this one, don't make hollow empty promises to provide information and then not follow through. I'd love to hear your "psychoanalysis" of the player-base so far, as you are another person I have never played with. cedolad.

        Manti's vote/point brings up another question I have. Is it better in this format to vote the least active player on the first day? I only say this because of a point made last game by V that really resonated with me. That when an inactive player remains alive and inactive for multiple days, they begin to become quite a fed carry, if we're using MOBA terms. As in, it makes it very difficult to get a read on them, difficult to find information to analyze and connect with, and difficult to decide if it's worth lynching them versus someone who may be deemed mildly suspicious at the time.

        I think this is something we all need to reach a consensus on, and really keep the pressure going.

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        • Crazyjayde
          FFR Veteran
          • May 2007
          • 1169

          #94
          Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

          Just woke up from an eternal slumber, saw most of the additional posts and nothing seems of value really. Zoshi's particular entrance, votes going in good directions, etc.

          I'm keeping my vote on cedo for earlier reasons (Jrodd's vote) and also because of your particular evasiveness to the stances garnered against you. You place a safety, keep the vote on a player with no evidence, give a weak reasoning for safety voting, place a reactionary vote on V. I'm not defending that this chain of events hints to a fishy behavior but more that it indicates lazy gameplay that does not contribute to the setting of a good field of exchange. I need to know how you'll be valuable to the hunt.
          What gives me more suspicion about you than others is the fact that when V addresses your hollow reasoning, and I contribute by noticing an alternate view on the explanation, you don't seem to bother to defending the case, giving me the impression that you believe my intervention is sufficient to disregard any attention on you when it really doesn't serve this purpose.

          TPS is offering good points and V is pinning weak plays nicely. You guys are playing like last game and are reestablishing beneficial roles. YMIA reaction didn't feel genuine to me, especially with the second post who seemed to distance himself from his reaction by explaining the reason of his impulsiveness. Felt off-place. I want to know more and he is a also a good candidate for voting, since it looks like an early attempt to fit in (like AC1 said).

          That aside, I only want to state that I like to create early disturbances when in start of the game since it really has no significant repercussion (given that I'm also a new player). I feel like this is gonna fall flat in a C9++ format though. Anyway, I took V, an experienced and trusted player, as a launchpad for arising a different kind of discussion and making myself look inexperienced/easy to manipulate. This kind of approach often offers me better read on people and distinguishes which player falls for a manipulative strategy/offers better leaks on information. I think I needed to explain that a bit since I failed badly in doing so and since you guys don't really know how I work. Keep in mind I'm french and played solely IRL.

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          • Zoshi
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2013
            • 144

            #95
            Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

            Yoman

            I don't know why I changed :~S.

            You man is trying to fit in, defense seemed a bit too personal etc.

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            • AC1speakerbox
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2006
              • 1242

              #96
              Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

              I'm giving Cedolad the benefit of the doubt on the timeliness of his response, but you better hurry up, bud.

              Whether you think you deserve it or not, the spotlight is on you, and all we want are your thoughts. Any unnecessary delay is going to look really bad on you.

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              • Crazyjayde
                FFR Veteran
                • May 2007
                • 1169

                #97
                Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                Originally posted by Tps222
                Manti's vote/point brings up another question I have. Is it better in this format to vote the least active player on the first day? I only say this because of a point made last game by V that really resonated with me. That when an inactive player remains alive and inactive for multiple days, they begin to become quite a fed carry, if we're using MOBA terms. As in, it makes it very difficult to get a read on them, difficult to find information to analyze and connect with, and difficult to decide if it's worth lynching them versus someone who may be deemed mildly suspicious at the time.
                This resonates to me as well. Although as for now I'm seeing a good stream of activity and it is hard to distinguish which player falls under the inactive category. Thing is, with early phases, given that a player seems inactive, the ambiguity resides in the fact that there is next to nothing that can relate to him as an enemy player. With a night or two under the belt, even though it might be difficult to establish correlations within inactive players since the dynamic will have changed, we will also be more at ease in suggesting reads. In summary, give it some time before lynching inactive players, but don't wait too much. Don't know if I'm clear enough. u__u

                I'll do my homework for this game now.

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                • j-rodd123
                  End of the road
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3692

                  #98
                  Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                  ^ I agree, it's not like a utr player will make it to end game and if they do it's not like they will make it there without a target on their back. Too early to determine activity level, but hoping for a high usefulness level so cedo

                  Originally posted by FictionJunction
                  wow

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                  • cedolad
                    moonchild~
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6879

                    #99
                    Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                    And so the spotlight is on me. I say, I didn't realize one stupid post would put me in such a situation. As for that psychoanalysis I said I was working on, really can't complete that with it only being day one. Which is still throwing me off, starting games on day one come to bring an interesting aspect.

                    Anyway, V, you sure have a pretty aggressive play style. The more I think about it, you're arguments towards my post, it being lazy and half-assed, is all valid. Though I'm no wolf or whatever the role is called this game, I didn't structure a well thought out post because of just coming from work blah blah blah. I arbitrarily threw a vote out hoping to gain attention from others. Learn how they vote and why. I'm still trying to get a feel for the game considering this game has the most experienced players that I've played in.

                    I will admit my first post was sloppy and rather uncalled for. I should've been more patient and had more reasoning, but either way I still found it useful.

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                    • Vendetta21
                      Sectional Moderator
                      Sectional Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2745

                      #100
                      Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see



                      Just discovered this neat function. You can find it by clicking the link created by the thread reply number in the sub forum.

                      Nothing really enlightening yet.

                      @fojar can we get a vote count.

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                      • Vendetta21
                        Sectional Moderator
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2745

                        #101
                        Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                        Originally posted by cedolad
                        And so the spotlight is on me. I say, I didn't realize one stupid post would put me in such a situation. As for that psychoanalysis I said I was working on, really can't complete that with it only being day one. Which is still throwing me off, starting games on day one come to bring an interesting aspect.

                        Anyway, V, you sure have a pretty aggressive play style. The more I think about it, you're arguments towards my post, it being lazy and half-assed, is all valid. Though I'm no wolf or whatever the role is called this game, I didn't structure a well thought out post because of just coming from work blah blah blah. I arbitrarily threw a vote out hoping to gain attention from others. Learn how they vote and why. I'm still trying to get a feel for the game considering this game has the most experienced players that I've played in.

                        I will admit my first post was sloppy and rather uncalled for. I should've been more patient and had more reasoning, but either way I still found it useful.
                        I want to know your opinions of others. Tell me what you think of crazyjayde. Try to be detailed.

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                        • Crazyjayde
                          FFR Veteran
                          • May 2007
                          • 1169

                          #102
                          Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                          K, I've just spilled most of my toothpaste on my favorite shirt and I'm kinda angry about it. I get that you realize how your post was...

                          Well shit, I just saw Vendetta post before me and say the exact same thing I was going to say. Anyway, I'm pleased with your excuses since we're all pretty much throwing votes around to get people talking since it's only Day 1, but it'll also be easier for us if you could give us a little more input about the game. I don't know how I should perceive/analyze you since you seem to be playing different from past games (I guess it's because of the odd format).

                          PS: Nice function V
                          PS2: Game-related question: do you think wolves would be tempted to leave hidden hints and indications to other wolves during the course of the day since they can only talk at night? I don't want to be on the lookout for something superfluous.
                          PS3: Should have bought it.
                          PS4: Better than Xbox One I guess.

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                          • cedolad
                            moonchild~
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6879

                            #103
                            Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                            This is all so much lol I understand this is a highly intellectual game with well thought out posts and all, but I'm so confused by you're previous post crazyjayde lol

                            As for you V, I find it out that he was so quick to defend me. Of course me slipping away from the conversation last night was rather rude of me and could've provided a bit more insight, I still find it peculiar.

                            And for more further inputs, I see freakysnots is still playing with his absurd logic and Zoshi specific voting pattern. Though I'm at a disadvantage because most of his reference is last game, and I still haven't taken a look yet.

                            Dance is being quite a shy one, I think he's only posted 4 times? And threw 2 votes out, with barely any reasoning. Granted, yoman and I did this as well. But might as well throw him under the bus too.

                            As for the others it seems they're all promoting usual villager behavior, trying to gain conversation and weed out potential inactives and wolves.

                            I am not used to this style of gameplay so please bare with me while I'm still trying to learn the ropes.

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                            • freakysnots
                              八一
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2904

                              #104
                              Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                              hey guys, guess who recently turned single

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                              • freakysnots
                                八一
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 2904

                                #105
                                Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

                                drunk twg inc. tonight via phone

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