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  • megamon88
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    • Feb 2006
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    #46
    Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

    Originally posted by KgZ
    obviously a still image on a spectrum doesn't do it quite justice, but here's the problem I hear:



    All the bass is landing in the 20-40hz range, a place where generally you can't really hear that kind of bass unless you have a subwoofer. So that's probably why if people who are listening to your music on subs say it's too bassy, this is why. Most headphones lack bass, which it shows in the mix you have presently.

    I think you will find greater results if you start mixing all of your audible low frequencies around the 60hz-200hz range. Usually my kick is in the 60-100hz (depending on the genre I'm composing), and everything else should be filled with bass where the kick isn't. In dubstep, kicks are usually in 100hz, and the bass fills the rest.

    Leave the lower hz for sub-basses. The meat of the growl sound in particular lands exactly at 40hz.
    I actually high-passed the growl at 100 Hz, so the 40Hz sound you're hearing is the sub. I guess I'll turn down the sub and up the growl then? Also I boosted the sub a lot so that's probably why it's so loud lol

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    • megamon88
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      • Feb 2006
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      #47
      Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

      Originally posted by KgZ
      I suppose, but when I first listened to the track I was wondering why the growl didn't have that kind of deep impact that I was expecting. I'd take that high pass down to like 40hz

      There's just not enough level (speaking in RMS, not peak) in those hertz ranges. The majority of the track on the spectrum is pretty flat, meaning all of the hertz response is about the same db, which is in my opinion isn't the best way for a mix because the human ear by nature hears (boosts/cuts) certain frequencies more than others.

      If you already know this stuff, I apologize for my rambling- hopefully other people in the thread can get an idea for their mixes too though.
      These tips are helping a lot, no need to apologize - I'm pretty much a huge noob when it comes to mixing, so advice is always appreciated

      I'll work on fixing this later tonight, thanks!

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      • Ohaider
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        • Jun 2012
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        #48
        Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

        @Kgz that sounds sick ))
        Last edited by Ohaider; 01-15-2013, 01:54 PM.

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        • megamon88
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          • Feb 2006
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          #49
          Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

          Fooling around with the vocal stems to my song Boooring when this happened. I have no idea what I'm doing.

          https://soundcloud.com/assertivefluttershy/random-boooring-ukhcvip/s-muku3

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          • StoneMcKnuckle
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            • May 2011
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            #50
            Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

            aside from the transition at 0.34 being way too subtle, that sounds good hehe

            ps I love pretty much everything you do that involves crazy vocal sampling

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            • Coolboyrulez0
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              • Aug 2006
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              #51
              Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

              miku dubstep... by me... wtf (miku sample provided by hero)



              ps: well aware of the standard FL kick and snare, its just practice in structure, sound design (although I used a few presets, altered of course) and mixing / fucking around with dubstep aka selling out hahaha and being bad at dubstepping (best part is the outro for sure)

              part 2 of the selling out workshop, some generic club song (really happy with how the melody turned out)
              Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 01-17-2013, 11:51 AM.
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              • StoneMcKnuckle
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                • May 2011
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                #52
                Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                you really can't make dubstep with preset patches. being bad at dubstep mostly involves being bad at synthesizing and/or mixing 'cause the genre really doesn't amount to much else.

                ps what's that hatsune miku sample from it felt pretty weird when it suddenly popped in

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                • Coolboyrulez0
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                  • Aug 2006
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                  #53
                  Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                  Originally posted by StoneMcKnuckle
                  being bad at dubstep mostly involves being bad at synthesizing
                  yup, can't do this at all really. I can't shape a sound that I enjoy listening from grounds up in most VSTs but altering presets, via paramaters of the VST itself, automation of the plugin (shaping), or VST placed on the mixer (EQ, Reverb, Compression etc.) is easy. teach me how to sound design / synthesis lol

                  sample is from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK_YYy8h5-8
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                  • StoneMcKnuckle
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                    • May 2011
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                    #54
                    Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                    I can't do it either. I've tried making dubstep just to confirm whether it's the faceroll I've always made it out to be, and it is/isn't depending on how you see it. Composing it is faceroll indeed, but making it sound good requires some skill ;>

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                    • Coolboyrulez0
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                      • Aug 2006
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                      #55
                      Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                      But you can make... metal-step!
                      (actually you should make this please, lfo'd guitars shredding up the place to a generic 1/3 kick snare pattern... fuck yeah!)
                      Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 01-17-2013, 02:23 PM.
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                      • StoneMcKnuckle
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                        • May 2011
                        • 790

                        #56
                        Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                        datsa gr9 idear

                        edit: unless you mean something like xi-on's stuff (example 1, example 2) in which case I've tried making stuff like that but haven't quite pulled it off at a level where I'm satisfied with the result yet.
                        edit2: we're totally hijacking this thread with bullshit right now so let's continue the discussion on skype or something. also, the answer is most definitely no as I still think this is a terrible idea
                        Last edited by StoneMcKnuckle; 01-17-2013, 04:34 PM.

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                        • Coolboyrulez0
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                          • Aug 2006
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                          #57
                          Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                          no im serious
                          hit me up and lets try this out because you can obviously make the guitars hit the same spectrum as wobbles (midrange "wubs", a bass guitar as the low-end "sub-bass", and a lead guitar as your "high-end")
                          and i dont think an lfo'd guitar would sound too bad, if it does just make give it a repetitive "trill" pattern. Doesn't hurt to experiment at least. Doesnt have to be 140 bpm either but the drums should retain that 1-3 pattern.
                          Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 01-17-2013, 04:31 PM.
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                          • StoneMcKnuckle
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                            • May 2011
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                            #58
                            Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                            loldrone test

                            written in 5 minutes. I think it's like 10BPM or something, can't remember what I set the value to.

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                            • Coolboyrulez0
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                              • Aug 2006
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                              #59
                              Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                              asked c6 (chat room) for a tempo and eze said 175bpm... here's what I got so far:

                              https://soundcloud.com/cbr/confusion-strike/s-5RiRu

                              PS: I feel that my best tracks are always jap in sen breaks / dnb tracks haha
                              Edit: updated LINK with v2, longer and less shitty mixing
                              Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 01-18-2013, 07:48 AM.
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                              • Herogashix
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                                • Apr 2009
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                                #60
                                Re: Music Works In Progress Thread

                                Guys, I have no inspiration. Halp.

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