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Originally Posted by Senip

I know leangains has a lot of followers, but I don't know of any bodybuilders who follow it.

Also, most articles I've read by people who have experimented with it tend to say 1 gram will do it. You're a smart dude, and I don't really want to get into an argument over this (because really, it's kinda stupid, if it works for your body its fine) but when people like Kiefer and a bunch of other guys with a billion degrees disagree, you know...

but then, Layne Norton, who is a bad mofo, agrees with you. Not totally, but he does:

http://spotmebro.com/layne-norton-ph...and-how-often/

For the pertinent info.

I also supplement with leucine, because I feel like I've made a ton of growth doing it.

http://www.simplyshredded.com/layne-...ting-diet.html

There's a few diet outlines he throws out, but I want to stress that if you eat oats, get something like steel cut oats, because regular oats are shitty and filled with crap.

Same goes with the cereal, not sure why he added those.

Just a friendly discussion.

My friend is running a pretty heavy cycle and consumes less protein than me. I've cut back my protein a lot and haven't seen a damn change in my gains. To each his own, but around 1 gram/lb seems perfectly sufficient. 1.5 is definitely a waste. 0.5 is definitely not enough.

Protein timing windows have been beaten to death from various sources, and the only consensus I can find is it just doesn't matter; if you eat it, you're fine. Personally, it wouldn't make a damn ounce of sense if you had to space your protein out. Our digestive tracts would have to be awfully inefficient to shit out quality protein. I can't see that having succeeded on an evolutionary timescale in times where people had to feast and fast frequently.


As for lean gains, plenty of people that are ripped run it. Of course bodybuilders don't run it though...they're on steroids and have to consume ridiculous amounts of food. Leangains is for naturals. Unless you're talking about natural bodybuilders, in which case I don't really follow that scene. I'm sure some of them have employed it though.


Anyway: http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/