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  • Magicturbo
    Beatrix~
    • Jul 2008
    • 1508

    #2896
    Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

    Originally posted by Infinity.
    a week is long enough as it is wowza
    A week to you. To those with lag, it's only been the first 20 minutes of the round, when the game didn't lag. Since then, a lot of us haven't been able to get lag-free runs in. So the days are just wasting away unfairly for us because of technical issues

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    • ~Zeta~
      Flag Master
      • Oct 2010
      • 2156

      #2897
      Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

      Originally posted by magicturbo
      A week to you. To those with lag, it's only been the first 20 minutes of the round, when the game didn't lag. Since then, a lot of us haven't been able to get lag-free runs in. So the days are just wasting away unfairly for us because of technical issues
      +1.

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      • DossarLX ODI
        Batch Manager
        Game Manager
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2008
        • 15004

        #2898
        Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

        Originally posted by magicturbo
        A week to you. To those with lag, it's only been the first 20 minutes of the round, when the game didn't lag. Since then, a lot of us haven't been able to get lag-free runs in. So the days are just wasting away unfairly for us because of technical issues
        Well said. I had to use legacy this round, and it's the first time I've ever had to switch back to it due to lag. I definitely can't continue on like this -- I was lucky Shotgun Surgery was a relatively consistent file.
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • yo man im awesome
          soleil ardent
          FFR Simfile Author
          • May 2007
          • 6514

          #2899
          Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

          While I do feel bad for the people who are lagging (I'm one of them, but I was lucky enough to get a somewhat-lagless round in), I'm going to have to side with not having an extension.

          Originally posted by choof
          you double dad loving dipshit
          Originally posted by t-rogdor
          dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
          Originally posted by smartdude1212
          I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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          • Reshiram
            The Vast White Note
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2011
            • 1224

            #2900
            Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

            Extensions don't help me very much, and I've managed myself past computer failures to get a respectable score. On Velocity, the engine everyone is griping about.

            Also, I don't think extensions should be done considering the alternatives. I noticed zero lag coming from my personal machines, just the one I had that was literally older than dirt****.

            Not to mention: all the standalone options, engine choices (even just the two for non-vets)... So yeah, gonna side against since I don't see this being an issue of complete unplayability, just a lack of attempted alternatives.

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            • colt.45
              WASHED UP
              • Nov 2006
              • 1549

              #2901
              Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

              Originally posted by Arbliterator
              Will the 17th place get a prize if you get into the top 16? (I'm pretty sure you will.) Also no extensions please, if I do somehow make it into the final rounds I don't want school to interfer with playing. (Nor do I want people to have more time to pass me out. :c)
              Yes I will if that happens.. since I don't really want my own gift. This years competition is really tough. I'd be happy just to make it to top 32 =]! Hopefully there isn't a tie or I will have to take scores from the next round.
              I'm also not just limiting the gift bags to placing Top 32/16/8, I'll be giving around 6-10 randomly to people who aren't winning one.
              I might do this by picking people displaying good sportsmanship/encouragement throughout the tourney or I can take a random # generator and pick 1-2 random winners for each division. If I were to do 10 it'd be 7 picked from D4-6 and 3 from D1-3.

              Also my vote is no extension given the numerous engines and options.

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              • DarknessXoXLight
                sonder
                • Mar 2007
                • 2279

                #2902
                Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                An extension won't matter if you still have the lag through it.

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                • Velocity
                  Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1819

                  #2903
                  Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                  Once you include the 3 engines, 4 flash version (not counting revisions), Windows/Mac/Ubuntu, and an unknown amount of system configs, the entire system starts to get very unnerving. There's just so many possible setups for the same task having every single one of them all run flawlessly is impossible.

                  Then throw in how old the Legacy engine is, toss on a bunch of code that I wrote when first learning flash coding while working from a decompiled source, and wonder why it lags.

                  Then track the problem down.

                  It's all of it really.

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                  • VisD
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1196

                    #2904
                    Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                    depressing


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                    • DossarLX ODI
                      Batch Manager
                      Game Manager
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15004

                      #2905
                      Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                      Do you have a backup of the Velocity Engine with the Tournament Genre back from the 6th Official?
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                      • Magicturbo
                        Beatrix~
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1508

                        #2906
                        Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                        Originally posted by Reshiram
                        Extensions don't help me very much, and I've managed myself past computer failures to get a respectable score. On Velocity, the engine everyone is griping about.

                        Also, I don't think extensions should be done considering the alternatives. I noticed zero lag coming from my personal machines, just the one I had that was literally older than dirt****.

                        Not to mention: all the standalone options, engine choices (even just the two for non-vets)... So yeah, gonna side against since I don't see this being an issue of complete unplayability, just a lack of attempted alternatives.
                        Your older engines from your personal engines don't benefit us.

                        Standalone is somewhat of a given in the 'majority' of serious play (Though I think Mike Shinoda still uses browser .-.), I think. I've always used standalone because browser play is laggy for myself.

                        With engine choices, I feel like you haven't read any of the previous comments from people about using different engines, and how they usually equal the equivalent of asking someone to write neatly with their left hand (Or opposite hand of choice). If you're an ambidextrous person, then great! But not everyone is, and it's unfair to consider everyone can just switch hands (engines) as easily as you might be able to (lucky ability for you v.v). I can only play Velocity exclusively, and having tried Legacy and R^2 Beta, neither work for me in browser, nor in standalones (both due to being uncomfortable with the engine, as well as lag on all fronts).

                        I understand your stance on this, but your alternatives just don't work for a lot of us.



                        I understand Colt's reasoning behind no extensions though, with gift sendings and stuff, so I'm not going against that ;-;


                        Either way I hope it gets fixed up, because even outside of the tournament, regular playing is becoming sparse with this lag.
                        Last edited by Magicturbo; 07-26-2012, 12:54 AM.

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                        • MikeShinoda12345
                          *\(^o^)/*
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1890

                          #2907
                          Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                          I still use the user browser because I can't get the standalone to work on a mac rofl
                          it's a bit laggy, but you can get it to work.

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                          • bob bob
                            This Is How We Do It~
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3226

                            #2908
                            Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                            extensions?

                            what is this madness
                            Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983
                            Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG
                            Waiting for 2 Million members...
                            5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5


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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #2909
                              Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                              I'm personally against an extension. I spent a lot of time optimizing on both Windows and Ubuntu, dealing with whatever I could to make the game as playable as possible during the entire second and third round. It's also not fair to those who were able to get a score early on to get trumped by people who got a score past the round's end date. Imagine if you're a person without any lag who nails your score on the third day getting trumped by someone else who might not have lag on the extended eighth (or more) day?

                              It's unfortunate, but no matter what you do, things get ruined for some group of people.

                              EDIT: Oh hey, this is my 12,000th post.

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                              • yo man im awesome
                                soleil ardent
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • May 2007
                                • 6514

                                #2910
                                Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                                basically, shit happens FFR.

                                Originally posted by choof
                                you double dad loving dipshit
                                Originally posted by t-rogdor
                                dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
                                Originally posted by smartdude1212
                                I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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