11 Things the Bible Bans, But You Do Anyway

[OneHandNow]

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"Tide comes in, tide goes out - you can't explain that!!"

Hilarious..

Even more hilarious..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IguW9xHd2qo&feature=related

[Reincarnate]

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I think this is my favorite: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...degrasse-tyson

[eastsideman09]

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"My mom and dad made me do it, therefore I hate it..."
"My mom and dad were brainwashing me, I hate it..."
"A priest decided it was okay to have sex with children, I hate it."

The first two scenarios could basically be used for either side, they're both a matter of ones upbringing. Whether or not you question what your parents, or anyone at that, teach you at a young age will certainly mold who you are and what you believe.

I attended church weekly with my family until I was in 5th grade, but I was distancing myself from it before even then because nobody could really give me a satisfactory answer to my question: "Where did God come from?"

The most common answer I received was that "He's always been there", or something to that extent.... "Why? How?".... 'Because He's God' is what I came to understand as the reasoning for it, and that never really sat well with me. That's not to say I'm an atheist, I'm not.

As far as pedophilia goes, it certainly doesn't look good for a religion, or pretty much anything, when the person who's speaking on behalf of the one in charge makes a hypocrite of himself. Obviously it's not the case with every priest ever, but how does something like that even become a problem in the first place?

When in general aetheism spreads the exact same marble-jarble.
You people, and yes I will refer to you as a hive-mind, only look for anything that can be turned into a fallacy of the Bible, when you never attempt to find the fallacies in what scientists throw at you as truth, you (collective hive-mind) believe just about anything that is said until someone who is smarter says that it is wrong and then a new hypothesis is deemed correct...

Actually, that's basically whole point of science, isn't it?

Except when something is deemed a scientific law, there's really no denying it once it gets to that point. It can be modified or further explained with progression, but not necessarily disproven. Theories can certainly be disproven, but that's pretty much the point of them. They explain "why" and "how" something happens, and their accuracy is determined by experimenting.

(Correct me if I'm wrong though, that's pretty much my understanding of the Scientific Method from what I was taught in Biology and Chemistry two years ago.)

The only "laws" that I can think of that have been completely debunked are the one's from wayyyy back when, that were based on simple observations without any real testing (Flat Earth, Geocentric, etc.)

edit:

Even more hilarious..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IguW9...eature=related

The last line in this video....
"How can an african american person evolve from a white person, we've got different skin"

lmfaoooooooooo

[Reincarnate]

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People usually conflate what law vs. theory is. A law is something that describes a particular phenomenon. The Law of Gravity, for instance, is a way to basically say "gravity exists and this is what it does." The "what gravity is and how it actually works" is described by theory. In other words, law describes a phenomenon, and a theory is a framework that tries to explain how that phenomenon works.

It's not like a law is a "stronger" form of theory -- a theory is an attempt to create an explanation that is consistent with all other observations that uses observations, laws, and evidence to back its claims. Theories change all the time once more evidence comes in, and theories become stronger when new evidence supports it. All you need is one bit of contradictory evidence to shatter a theory.

[Reincarnate]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

[OneHandNow]

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I think this is my favorite: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...degrasse-tyson

[rushyrulz]

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You might not know exactly how an LED Television works, but you are pretty sure that it doesn't involve leprechauns waving lanterns across the inside powered by eating Lucky Charms.

Wait, so LED doesn't stand for Leprechaun-Emitting Diode

[Calcium Deposit]

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Clearly they run on the power of Led Zeppelin. Led power has been around since the 70s but was mostly used by the government up until the late 90s when it was then okay for the private sector use.

[ChesterDalton]

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So the Atheists evidence that proves atheism to be accurate and correct is now leprechauns it used to be unicorns.

[rushyrulz]

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Either one works, really.

I'm a follower of the mythical heavy metal singing chocolate beast myself.

[Dorby]

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I like how Mans0n has contributed nothing to this thread, yet has posted several times. Must be one of his intelligent debating strategies.

[Aldentron]

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So many atrocities can be attributed to religion it's not even funny. And while religion may attempt to shape morals, it is often twisted by those who are truly evil to justify their actions. For every person it helps to find the goodness in their hearts, I can assure you there is another who has simply used it to make themselves believe they are righteous.

Don't blame the religion, blame the people. Did every Christian participate in the Crusades? No. Does every Muslim practice jihad? No. Was every German a nazi during Hitler's reign? No.

My main problem with religion is the constant attempts at conversion and hatemongering, the corruption it often sows, and the hypocrisy that is often a result.

This is my exact problem, but like I said earlier, I hold it against the people, not the religion.

but at least the [atheists] I've met generally do not put themselves on a pedestal and attempt to avoid religious debates because they know that people tend to become fanatical and many a bridge can be burned in a simple argument.

Yes but it all seems quite different here on the internet, doesn't it?

Given how it destroys relationships as easily as that, can you really blame people for acting so abrasively towards religion, since oftentimes the basis for such a thing is from beliefs instilled by a religion?

Yes, because the only thing to be held accountable IS people. If you want to hold "God" accountable for anything, well good luck seeing any change.

[~kitty~]

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I don't think this should be argued any further. It's perfectly clear that no one will be convinced by this point. As much evidence as needed has been provided for either side, and if anyone were to change their minds about anything, they would have by now.

[speeddemon]

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Yes, because the only thing to be held accountable IS people.

Religion is the causal agent in many cases. If someone's religion requires you to sacrifice a virgin to the god of the volcano every month, lest they be burned into oblivion, do you blame the people for the requirement, or the religion?

[Reincarnate]

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Religion compels otherwise good people to do disgusting things