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  • Bluearrowll
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2007
    • 7376

    #196
    Re: I FC'd rato

    Why did I not notice this thread until now rofl
    1st in Kommisar's 2009 SM Tournament
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    Bluearrowll = The Canadian player who can not detect awkward patterns. If it's awkward for most people, it's normal for Terry. If the file is difficult but super straight forward, he has issues. If he's AAAing a FGO but then heard that his favorite Hockey team was losing by a point, Hockey > FFR
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    • DossarLX ODI
      Batch Manager
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2008
      • 15004

      #197
      Re: I FC'd rato

      Alright guys time for massive wall of text explaining the impetus for this thread !_!

      //coolstorybro time

      qqwref and I mentioned a scoring system of adding the combo to the hitting judgement you receive. For example, a perfect being worth 1550, so the combo is worth zero but it's added to the judgement and is still a factor in the score. Missing will definitely still penalize you but not nearly as ridiculous as with the current system. This thread was to show how far this scoring system can be abused to get better ranks. It doesn't even matter if you're like "oh 0-0-1-0 is better", the fact of the matter is that the other person who got the FC has a better registered rank on the file. If the scoring system is changed to the accuracy system, nobody has to be like "the score with the better PA is obviously better" anymore since it *is* a better score haha. Of course you can still mash, but should you get a good rank out of it? HELL NO LMFAO! qqwref can go into more detail about this if you ask him.

      The problem with making combo the primary scoring factor is that it encourages laziness. What I mean is that rather than trying to figure out certain sections of a file, many players just resort to mashing it so they don't miss. Of course there are patterns/parts of a file that can be undoable for a player, but some take it too far just to get an FC and a better rank. It is a huge slap in the face to the others who actually try to play the file. I'll mention my piano analogy again - would you rather listen to a piano player who misses a few notes in some hard parts or a piano player who smashes the hard parts? The piano player who smashes in the hard parts may have "hit the notes" but also hit a shitload of other notes that aren't supposed to be played so as a result it winds up sounding like an unprofessional piece of trash.

      I'm pretty sure most of you knew that I'm ffdfadsdasd at this point. None of these scores were hacked or obtained with double setup, but with vibrating and purposely hitting very early (like the RATO one, it's really damn hard to get such horrible accuracy like that even with mashing). Crowdpleaser was actually the toughest FC of the files I played (just look at how ****ing close I was to missing on the trill but how much I cut through RATO, that should've given you guys that didn't know who ffdfadsdasd was an idea haha).

      As for the story behind ffdfadsdasd, that was my very first account on FFR, but it got blacklisted so I got these scores on ffdfadsdasd2. The story goes all the way back to January 2007 when I used arrow slowdown to get rank 9 on Molto Vivace (hilarious thread too, you guys should read it sometime haha).

      Another thing I would like to point out is that there should be a feature that makes it so if you save the replay of a run, you can save the score after. I've been able to save replays of a run but it's still not recorded in my level ranks. This would make things much easier for the player rather than having to submit a score to the unrecorded scores page.


      tl;dr version: I'm ffdfadsdasd, this thread should be enough incentive to change the scoring system, there should be a way to save your score if you save the replay.
      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 05-16-2011, 09:16 PM.
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • remedy1502
        remederpin
        • Feb 2007
        • 4884

        #198
        Re: I FC'd rato

        I totally thought it was Velo just sayin

        And my RWOB non-FC is better than like half the FCs cause of lmfao mashing.

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        • DossarLX ODI
          Batch Manager
          Game Manager
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2008
          • 15004

          #199
          Re: I FC'd rato

          Well the thing is that you got a miss in the last 8 notes, so it isn't going to affect your score nearly as much.

          A better score to reference would be something like this:

          123 GG_Guru 5,821,920 4255 50 6 1 5 3468

          Good PA but missed around 3/4 the way through.

          115 ffdfadsdasd2 5,985,340 2552 1089 671 0 3332 4312

          FC with horrendous everything but it's still a better rank.
          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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          • OneHandNow
            Banned
            • Sep 2006
            • 5305

            #200
            Re: I FC'd rato

            Originally posted by OneHandNow
            Commencing: subtle propaganda to remove the combo scoring system by an enthusiastic Stepmania player
            I think I'm a psychic!

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            • emulord
              FFR Veteran
              • Sep 2006
              • 778

              #201
              Re: I FC'd rato

              The problem with that is Here we go becomes unobtainable if you get a great PA run on a song with a miss, and you can't top it without getting much better. You might even want to mash more if you're going for Here we go because of the added possibility of losing FCs.

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              • qqwref
                stepmania archaeologist
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 4092

                #202
                Re: I FC'd rato

                Here We Go is well nigh unobtainable anyway. Forget that shit.
                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                • emulord
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 778

                  #203
                  Re: I FC'd rato

                  Idk I got it when I mashed everything 10+ and played everything 9- index. The problem is last note missflags are really really bad for you.

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                  • rushyrulz
                    Digital Dancing!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 12985

                    #204
                    Re: I FC'd rato

                    I got Here We Go the day it came out. You know, the day before like 6 ridiculously hard FGOs got added.

                    Originally posted by emulord
                    Idk I got it when I mashed everything 10+ and played everything 9- index. The problem is last note missflags are really really bad for you.
                    missflag is 0-0-1-0. Everything else is just sux2suck


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                    • Shikari
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2055

                      #205
                      Re: I FC'd rato

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      tl;dr version: I'm ffdfadsdasd
                      heh

                      Originally posted by gold stinger
                      Shikari for resident profile artist

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                      • DJMAYYYNE
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 609

                        #206
                        Re: I FC'd rato

                        penis

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