live everyday as it were your last?

[The_Q]

RE: live everyday as it were your last?

Falcon, I was praying you would come to the real reason as I read your post. I remembered that it's too obvious for you and simply gave up after a while. I was rather disappointed. I was even more disappointed in Sam, though. C'mon, what did I tell you about being respectful to people?

Anyway, the real reason for not living like everyday were you last is because it simply costs too much. Admit it, living like that would cost a lot for you, physically, mentally and financially. I guess what I'm trying to say is that anyone who has any sense of economics would never live like that. People like having smooth lives, not too much good, not too much bad. When you suggest that you have excessively good times you imply that excessively bad times will follow. No, who's to say "why not have the good times and then suck it up all at once through the bad? A huge dose of poverty followed by (or following) a huge period of wealth can't be that bad.

Ask someone from the Great Depression whether they liked that idea. It's that kind of mentality that is wrong with our world. The idealistic, hollow bullshit that is flung out at us in English class.

Q

[alainbryden]

RE: live everyday as it were your last?

falconsfan you are so cliché, it's as though you don't have thoughts of your own,

Mal, you did a great job of summarizing a good philosophy in a very aesthetic way.

Since it's pretty much been covered how people think they should live thier lives, how about coming to face with the reality of how they live their lives.

People spend the first 12 years of their lives the way it should be spend, then they spend three quarters of their lives planning ahead, and finally spend the last bit wondering why they aren't happy like they planned for. This is merely a general observation.

[TheTypist]

Mal, that is why I plan to move out of the States after I finish my education.

In America, we go around with our "anything goes, just live" philosophies, then go around trying to "have as much fun as we can" regardless of the lives of others.

So let me tell you: You don't necessarily not have to know where you are going after you die, and for the love of God, don't live an empty life of living for the next moment, for the next temporary distraction from reality. Don't become lost in the sea of those who can't quiet their minds for five minutes because they're too afraid to stop and think about the things really worth living for.

[alainbryden]

Well that's where the religious dissagree with the others because you feel like you should live your life to get into heaven and we know (for ourselves) that this is not a concern, for obvious reasons in our difference in beliefs. It would be wrong to now bring your religion into this discussion to say how live should be lived, or we will no longer be arguing principles of living, and will be arguing beliefs. Instead of telling us what you'be been preached, discuss your own ideas of what is valuable about life.

[MalReynolds]

I'm not afraid of some deity that threatens hell fire and beinged damned to eternal suffering. I'm free of that, and even if God does exist, I'm going to be with some fun people in Hell. JFK, Al Capone, a close friend that killed himself two years ago, Ghandi.

You can stifle your life all you want. I feel for you, but at least you won't be in America any more to try to make people live in accordance with your beliefs.

Beezlebub has a devil set aside for me =D

Mal

[falconsfan14]

read this poem this is the one phycic was talking about in another topic, notice what it says at the end
the lesson of the moth
By Don Marquis, in "archy and mehitabel," 1927


i was talking to a moth
the other evening
he was trying to break into
an electric light bulb
and fry himself on the wires

why do you fellows
pull this stunt i asked him
because it is the conventional
thing for moths or why
if that had been an uncovered
candle instead of an electric
light bulb you would
now be a small unsightly cinder
have you no sense

plenty of it he answered
but at times we get tired
of using it
we get bored with the routine
and crave beauty
and excitement
fire is beautiful
and we know that if we get
too close it will kill us
but what does that matter
it is better to be happy
for a moment
and be burned up with beauty
than to live a long time
and be bored all the while
so we wad all our life up
into one little roll
and then we shoot the roll
that is what life is for
it is better to be a part of beauty
for one instant and then cease to
exist than to exist forever
and never be a part of beauty
our attitude toward life
is come easy go easy
we are like human beings
used to be before they became
too civilized to enjoy themselves

and before i could argue him
out of his philosophy
he went and immolated himself
on a patent cigar lighter
i do not agree with him
myself i would rather have
half the happiness and twice
the longevity

but at the same time i wish
there was something i wanted
as badly as he wanted to fry himself

archy

"we were like humans used to be before they became too civilized to enjoy themselves"
its about life, its a great poem,good message
makes you think.

[alainbryden]

God dammit stop quoting people and think for yourself.

[falconsfan14]

i didnt quote any one i copy=pasted it, i think the poem had something to do with this topic so i posted it in here.

[TheTypist]

Well that's where the religious dissagree with the others because you feel like you should live your life to get into heaven and we know (for ourselves) that this is not a concern, for obvious reasons in our difference in beliefs. It would be wrong to now bring your religion into this discussion to say how live should be lived, or we will no longer be arguing principles of living, and will be arguing beliefs. Instead of telling us what you'be been preached, discuss your own ideas of what is valuable about life.

I like to think of it as the others disagreeing with the religious but...

So you don't want me discussing my beliefs, and you're assuming that I've just been fed some kind of religion and have just taken it at face value. AND, you somehow think that I'm shallow enough not to let my faith affect my actual values. Wow. I find it funny how you don't want me expressing my values and beliefs, yet you're now bossing me around and telling me what's "wrong."

But it's all right. I was in the mood for a good laugh. You know, we're all expressing our opinions and beliefs here, so if an opinion or two has do deal with religion I suggest you don't viciously attack it.[/i]

[alainbryden]

Look, about 50% of posts in CT turn in to Athiest vs Christian battles. All I asked was that you not do this again. Thanks anyways.

[falconsfan14]

yes alain is right, usually all ct discussions turn into religious discussions, people post religious things and think thats critical thinking, well its not and its a lil annoying. ct=critical thinking that means you actually think about it not post what offends you religious wise think outside the box thats what critical thinking is about. if everyone thought outside the box do you know how interesting it would be in here? all you here about is religion, lets give that a rest.

[Moogy]

you can't even spell atheist alain

tisk tisk

[tsutter]

RE: live everyday as it were your last?

Number 2 was tricky.

[TheTypist]

Eeeww... I can't believe what happened while I was gone. The real critical thinkers have all been replaced with those who only spurt out "aesthetic philosophy," who dismiss all spiritual thinking and try to label it as useless religion, who are so caught up in trying to be politically correct that they forget what they learned in elementary english classes, and start demanding that others keep their mouths shut if it involves anything they would uncomfortable about.

It seems that all you really hear about is trying to avoid "religion." If I mention my Christian faith, why don't you try tolerating it like you would be so careful to do with anything else? You don't have to attack it unless you really want to.

And it seems, like you really want to.

[falconsfan14]

well typist people attack other people on religion in here because like i said before thats all you hear about and these threads usually turn into religious discussions. I personally find it annoying and childish. People wouldnt attack other people on their religion as much if it wasnt mentioned so much. once again stop thinking inside the box, really think about it and post, people will care what you have to say. so we can all stop the reliousness on here and talk about something else.