Is it wrong to be gay?

[mhss1992]

Re: Is it wrong to be gay?

i'd go furter on saying there there is no purpose about life at all, as the only thing that makes life itself possible is the continuous interation of atoms and ultimately energy. at this point, life is a subresult of the tendency of complex atomic systems of finding the point of aequilibrium. proliferation of life has nothing to do with the reason why life exists and its supposed purpose, which is an erroneous human concept that has nothing to do with the universe mechanics.

Just because you can't see anything beyond the obvious. And you think that existence is limited by what you see.
Also, everything you said was completely unnecessary.

[Mollocephalus]

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whatever purpose you may find in your life is fictional, and wouldn't make sense in a methodic analisys. anyone creates or most likely inheritates his/her life goals but that doesn't implicate that these goals are valid at an universal level. i'm pretty sure this is what you mean by "looking beyond the obvious" except the said obvious is -ooops- a phisical fact while the said beyond is the dream that anyone, to different degrees, creates to make reality look fancier.

anyways, going by these concepts, no, it's not wrong to be gay.

[Niala]

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Two options:
1) If you're gay, date gay people.
2) If you're straight, then why the **** do you care about gay people so much that you insult them? It's not like gay people interfere in your life; just leave it be, you can hate it all you want, but it's not going to change **** all, so just stfu about it and live with it.

P.S. I'm religious (Christian) and have no problem with gay people whatsoever. Religion isn't an excuse to hate people for being who they are. "Nothing makes God happier than when two people, ANY TWO PEOPLE, come together in happiness." etc. etc. Book Chapter:Line. XP

[mhss1992]

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whatever purpose you may find in your life is fictional, and wouldn't make sense in a methodic analisys. anyone creates or most likely inheritates his/her life goals but that doesn't implicate that these goals are valid at an universal level. i'm pretty sure this is what you mean by "looking beyond the obvious" except the said obvious is -ooops- a phisical fact while the said beyond is the dream that anyone, to different degrees, creates to make reality look fancier.

anyways, going by these concepts, no, it's not wrong to be gay.

Seriously, what you're saying makes no sense.
You only pointed that we are made of atoms and stuff. Nice.
That has absolutely nothing to do with life having a purpose or not. Methodic analysis doesn't negate the existence of a purpose, either.
And you say that the concept of "purpose" is a human creation. Well, science and every other concept are also human creations. Concepts don't come out of nowhere.

I really don't want to discuss that, now... But, believe me, I have thought a lot about this, I've had lots of thoughts and experiences, and I have enough good reasons to say that there is a purpose.

You don't have to believe in a purpose, but saying that there isn't one just because you can't see one, like you did, is just as dogmatic as believing in the bible or similar things without questioning.

[xThai]

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I couldn't care less about gay people, I know a bunch of them except I'm not friends with any of them. I don't think it's wrong to be gay, but if I ever had a son/daughter that was gay/lesbian... It'd be extremely hard for me to accept them for who they were.

[Flaming_Dingleberry]

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1) Gayness is not a choice.

2) Smoking isn't comparable to sexual orientation.

3) Gayness isn't incorrect, no. It is indeed a fact.

[mhss1992]

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They cleaned the thread again...

[MyRoseTearsBlood]

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There is nothing wrong with being gay. People are just closed minded.
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This.

[bobeck]

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To those who support the homosexuals..... I have a question. What separates a homosexual from one who engages in bestiality? Are those individuals who practice bestiality to be widely accepted and even encouraged? After all, it's a ''psychological desire, does not harm anyone, and makes them happy" (arguments used by advocates of homosexuals).

I make the comparison between homosexuals and those who practice bestiality to illustrate that there are things that are inherently wrong, such that mere "feelings or psychological desires, or harm to others" can not be the basis for determining whether something is right or wrong.

I am predicating the above paragraph on the hopeful supposition that one frowns upon the practice of bestiality. If I am wrong, and the majority of you do openly accept the practice of bestiality, then it is a very sad and dismal day, which can only become darker.

[Izzy]

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I have a question. What separates a homosexual from one who engages in bestiality?

Race maybe?

[qqwref]

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To those who support the homosexuals..... I have a question. What separates a homosexual from one who engages in bestiality? Are those individuals who practice bestiality to be widely accepted and even encouraged? After all, it's a ''psychological desire, does not harm anyone, and makes them happy" (arguments used by advocates of homosexuals).

There's actually a really big difference... homosexuals want to have sex with other humans, whereas those who engage in bestiality want to have sex with non-humans. This is a really important difference because of the issue of consent. What a group of people (whatever their sexuality) do in private is their own business, and if all of those people have consented to the act and didn't withdraw consent, then nobody is being hurt in any way and there is really nothing wrong with whatever happens. On the other hand, when you bring animals into the mix, consent becomes impossible to prove, because animals can't talk. There's no way to be sure that an animal is giving consent, and you can't ask the animal after the fact if they're OK with what happened. In that case, what's wrong is the possibility of rape, and you can never prove that rape didn't happen like you can with people.

[bobeck]

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Race maybe?

I believe you mean species.. not race. But never the less, if gender doesn't have any bearing on our drive for sexuality, what difference would race or species have? (notice i said DRIVE for sexuality) I'm fully aware of the physical disparities; procreation be one of them.

[fido123]

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I believe you mean species.. not race. But never the less, if gender doesn't have any bearing on our drive for sexuality, what difference would race or species have? (notice i said DRIVE for sexuality) I'm fully aware of the physical disparities; procreation be one of them.

Bestiality is an issue of consent. If an animal could give consent and does **** him/her...why should you care? You may think it's disgusting, I would to, and that's A-OK. Does that make it wrong? Why would it? Not hurting, or putting anybody at a disadvantage. Same with homosexuals. Why are you concerned with who somebody else is having s hex with? Do you plan to be involved in their sex life? Does their sex life have any negative impact on your life? If the population was low I could see an argument...but we need to cut down on reproduction.

[Izzy]

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I believe you mean species.. not race. But never the less, if gender doesn't have any bearing on our drive for sexuality, what difference would race or species have? (notice i said DRIVE for sexuality) I'm fully aware of the physical disparities; procreation be one of them.

I don't think it's called the human race for no reason.

[bobeck]

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I don't think it's called the human race for no reason.

I'm sorry, I guess I took ''race'' to mean the typical and common understanding of national origin (as in racial segregation).

But back on topic and addressing fido123's last post, It appears then that you truly do believe that only the issue of harm to others is what determines what makes something right or wrong. And upon that theory, one then must accept and condone such grotesque practices as bestiality, not to mention all other activities which I do not care to discuss that are equally if not more disgusting.

I was hoping to cause one to see how some act so abominable as to offend the morality of the general population in today's lenient society can and probably will be the norm if one continues to apply that ''rule of law''. One should realize that there must be some other factor in determine "right or wrong" than just the harm it causes to others; for without some additional guidance, worse things will come.