TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09

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  • qqwref
    stepmania archaeologist
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2005
    • 4092

    #3361
    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

    I decided to try looking at the average number of points required to get to each tier. Assuming that a 3/x is as hard to get after the update as before (which is pretty much true since the reqs for the songs that were there before haven't been changed), this should give a pretty reasonable objective way of looking at the difficulty of achieving a certain tier. Of course, there are many songs where you can't get more than 4 or 5 or 6 points, so this wouldn't be as accurate for the higher levels, but it would probably give a good idea of what the old T4 and T3 (and maybe T2) would correspond to in the new system.

    In the old TP list we had 100 songs, so to get to the bottom three tiers you'd need an average of (respectively) 2.7, 3.5, and 4.5 points. Right now we have 120 songs. If we just use the numbers from before they would correspond to 324, 420, and 540 points. I guess what I'm saying is that I think those point values would be about as hard to get to as the old tiers. So if someone can make it to 420 points (T4?) in the new system, they're probably, on average, about as good as someone who could make it to 350 points (T3) in the old system.
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    • leonid
      I am leonid
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Oct 2008
      • 8080

      #3362
      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

      I have more than 650 tier points now.. I deserve having in my siggy amirite?



      Proud member of Team No

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      • Patashu
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Apr 2006
        • 8609

        #3363
        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

        the 'all 3/xs are equally hard to get' isn't really a fair comparison to make, because you also have to consider that you can only get as many points on a song as an AAA gives. if it went up to 9/x on all songs, for instance, and all 9/xs were equally hard, you'd need to implement some kind of marvelous timing. when there are more maximum points to make you can get higher tier points total if you're even remotely good at FMOs and FGOs.
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        • Plan_Bsk81127
          snooches
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2007
          • 6420

          #3364
          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

          Originally posted by leonid
          I have more than 650 tier points now.. I deserve having in my siggy amirite?
          Nope, you are still T3. :P

          MAX Points = 918 pts
          Tier 0 - 880 pts or above
          Tier 1 - 770 pts or above
          Tier 2 - 660 pts or above
          Tier 3 - 540 pts or above <<<<<<<< Leonid. D:
          Tier 4 - 420 pts or above

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          • leonid
            I am leonid
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Oct 2008
            • 8080

            #3365
            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

            nuuuuu

            well

            Tier Points: 759 (753 + 6 for 465 AAAs)

            I'm at T2



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            • qqwref
              stepmania archaeologist
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2005
              • 4092

              #3366
              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

              Originally posted by Patashu
              the 'all 3/xs are equally hard to get' isn't really a fair comparison to make, because you also have to consider that you can only get as many points on a song as an AAA gives.
              Right, that's why it's only at a reasonable comparison for the lower tiers. To get 6.5 points per song in the old system was extremely difficult because so many songs only had 5 or 6 maximum points (so you needed almost all available points), whereas in the new system 6.5 points per song is a lot easier for a good player since so many more songs have 8 or 9 available points. But if you are aiming for 2.7 or 3.5 (or whatever) points per song, the fact that some songs only go up to 5/5 isn't going to have much effect.


              leonid: You can make at LEAST T1, I expect it from you very soon
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              • Utukku
                FFR Veteran
                • May 2008
                • 137

                #3367
                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                FC a FGO is a lot harder than AAA a VC in my opinion, and still doesnt give the same amount of tp.
                I wont complain so much about the tiers req, but I still think about half the people who were T4 wont make it again before several months.

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                • who_cares973
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 15407

                  #3368
                  Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                  i could actually be T4 but god damn im lazy and dont care to play some of the songs

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                  • Plan_Bsk81127
                    snooches
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6420

                    #3369
                    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                    If Leonid prob wasnt lazy to AAA all the songs, he could prob be a low T1 near T0.

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                    • Ziergdsx18
                      ℜ1 ステップチャート 著者
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2800

                      #3370
                      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                      Originally posted by who_cares973
                      i could actually be T4 but god damn im lazy and dont care to play some of the songs
                      Yes u are. We both agree on that. >:]


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                      • remedy1502
                        remederpin
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 4884

                        #3371
                        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                        Lol I was T2 on old system, now I'm below T4 xD
                        I do have stuff to work on, though.

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                        • Etylukah
                          Ultimate Gamer
                          • May 2009
                          • 491

                          #3372
                          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                          Are you guys going to put a list of everyone in T0-T4 so we have an idea of where everyone is currently?

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                          • Adamaja456
                            Absurd
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 6433

                            #3373
                            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                            Originally posted by Etylukah
                            Are you guys going to put a list of everyone in T0-T4 so we have an idea of where everyone is currently?
                            lets wait a week or something. i need 7 more for T3 :P


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                            • cedolad
                              moonchild~
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6879

                              #3374
                              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                              I need a lot for T4, and I don't see myself getting them.

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                              • Sprite-
                                HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 7317

                                #3375
                                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                                Originally posted by Etylukah
                                Are you guys going to put a list of everyone in T0-T4 so we have an idea of where everyone is currently?
                                That's up to tass or LD because they have to run the script that gathers everyone's TPs.

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