Discussion of Porn

[evilbutterfly]

Re: Discussion of Porn

I did have a well-drawn statement all thought out about the advantages of Porn, but I forgot it before I could write it all down.

He must have forgotten while watching some porn...

And I agree with what one person said about not blaming porn for rape. If somebody is so easily influenced that watching some people get it on makes them HAVE TO get it on with somebody, then they are already messed up as it is. Porn didn't make them rape the person, their sick twisted mind did.

It is my belief that TV and movies shouldn't be blamed and attacked, but people should learn to control themselves and not be so easily swayed.

BIG EDIT:

In truth, a higher birthrate is a GOOD thing. Screw overpopulation- that's the South Americans, Muslims, and Chinese (literally).

Are you retarded!? What grade are you in, seriously?? It's a good thing that many Europeans have declining populations. Overpopulation is a BIG thing, seriously. The developed countries like the US and those in Europe have declining populations, which is good (and yes, the US has a rising population, but the birthrate is below 2 per couple (i forget the technical term, it's been all summer since AP Environmental) but we have so many immigrants that our population rises).

Also your statement that I quoted shows hints of racism. The Muslims? WTF is that supposed to mean, man? India's population is out of control, and I'm pretty sure they're Hindu.

I was gonna write more, but I had to run off to dinner and lost my train of thought. Seriously guys, don't try and make points unless you have real facts to back it up or if you REALLY know what you're talking about.

[DracIV]

So it's a GOOD thing is all of the developed countries disappear and only the undeveloped ones remain with populations far too large to sustain? Are you an IDIOT?

Next, as I said the US has a declining population of Americans- i.e. Non-Immigrants. That means that unless these people take on our culture as much as full-americans do, the american culture will slowly be washed out. The same is true for all the European countries that are suffering from declining population.

Racism? WTF are you talking about? The Muslims, yes, not the Hindus. I said the Muslims and I mean the Muslims- the territory that is primarily muslim people is having far too many children flat out and as the European populations are declining those people move in to fill the gaps and begin to create that "wash out" effect I mention in the US. Both France and Germany are examples of places that have made very strict rules to try to protect their culture (like France recently made a law that Muslim women are not allowed to wear their head coverings [I forgot the name]). Racism has abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING to do with the cultural migrations around the world. I seriously think you must be a fool if you think fact has anything to do with idiotic anger towards all individuals in a larger group- I have the former and not the latter.

[Afrobean]

How did this turn into being not about porn? Well, I'll attempt to remedy that.

And I agree with what one person said about not blaming porn for rape. If somebody is so easily influenced that watching some people get it on makes them HAVE TO get it on with somebody, then they are already messed up as it is. Porn didn't make them rape the person, their sick twisted mind did.

It's not that they "HAVE TO get it on with somebody", it's that they get off on the idea of forcing a girl (or, let's face it, these are some sickos, so let's include men as potential rapees) against their will.

[Moogy]

Rape porn is hot.

[evilbutterfly]

Okay, so the immigrants are going to "wash away American culture," eh? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? The US is a nation of immigrants! This country was founded by immigrants, and what you're saying is total BS. That law you gave as an example, yeah, that's eliminating those Muslims' freedom of religion. You seem to be condoning such a law in France, so you must condone such things elsewhere. Are you suggesting that we eliminate freedom of religion?

Sir or madam, you sound about as crazy right now as those people who still think the "commies" are going to launch a nuke at us. Seriously, you can't reasonably say that overpopulation is a good thing. Because of overpopulation Earth is going to shit and people like you don't think we should do anything about it. You talk of "suffering from a declining population" when really a lowered population is a good thing. Fewer people means less pollution, which means a cleaner environment, which means we don't all die.

You act like an influx of immigrants would destroy a country. Throughout history there have been influxes of immigrants from all over the place. Right now the US is getting a lot of Mexicans. During that giant potato famine many Irish immigrants came. During times of political upheaval thousands of Europeans fled to America to stay safe. The 13 original colonies were all made using an influx of immigrants who came seeking oppurtunity or escape from religious persecution. An influx of immigrants does not destroy a country or its culture, but rather bolsters the country with a steady supply of workers and adds to the country's culture by bringing in fresh concepts which mix with existing ones and sometimes fuse to form new ideas and innovations. What you are saying is completely made up. Please, give me some sources for all these things you state. Also, it would be very nice to know how old you are and what classes you might have taken concerning these topics. Perhaps with that information you can prove that you are either ignorant or a moron and that you should just stop trying to argue with people who know vast ammounts more than you.

In closing:
AP US History + AP Environmental Science = I know more than you about this subject
I know more + Speech and Debate = I will win this arguement no matter what = You should stop trying


And Afrobean I was talking about people who blame normal porn for "making" people go out and rape somebody. Hell, I don't even think watching rape porn "makes" you go rape somebody. I still stand by my statement that people who are so easily influenced already have problems, and we should focus on those problems, not whose to blame.


In other news: Moogy, you are correct. It is hot, where hot means illegal.

[DracIV]

Evil, what the hell are you talking about? I told you how things are and I in NO way condoned the actions of France- hell, I didn't make ANY comment on that.

Overpopulation is BAD. I said it was. But declining birth rates in developed countries is BAD. Those birthrates decline and the undeveloped countries continue acting as baby factories and the overall population increases while the portion of the population that lives in good conditions decreases. I am not saying anything that seems at all crazy, I am just trying to tell you a few simple facts.

I know that in most cases an influx of immigrants is a good thing- more population, more workers. But when you lose your original population, the immigrants are replacements, not additions. I never said an influx of immigrants would destroy a country or it's culture, I said it would cause a wash out effect; the culture would lose large parts of its identity and have them replaced or masked by parts of the incoming culture. This kind of thing has happened hundreds of times throughout history, but this time we can see it coming and it isnt a good thing for us. The fact that you define knowledge as classes you take tells me you are probably younger than 22. I've got you there because I don't need to take those classes anymore- I'm smart enough to look at the facts of the world and find truth on my own. The only thing that you have is stubbornness and non-existant faults.

I have 4 very simple areas of info that you should look up:
A. The conquering of the Med. Sea area by the Romans and the mixing of culture that caused (or any other similar situation)
B. The # of Mexican immigrants entering the US each year both legally and illegally
C. The portion of the population that is immigrants who have been here for 3 or fewer generations
D. The birth rates of citizens who have been here for more than 3 generations. (or just the birthrate period)

If you actually spend the time to find that information, you SHOULD be able to see how obvious the current patterns are. If you really want to get rid of overpopulation, find a way to stabilize developed countries' replacement rate and then get rid of the undeveloped countries (develop them).