are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

[perkeyone]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

Um...which statistics in this thread were you referring to here?

oh just statistics in general
i simply meant that looking at numbers or graphs does not give one empirical knowledge

[devonin]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

oh just statistics in general
i simply meant that looking at numbers or graphs does not give one empirical knowledge

I'm just saying that, given the lack of these numbers or graphs in this thread, was observing that you don't feel they are useful really worth a 21 day bump?

[perkeyone]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

I'm just saying that, given the lack of these numbers or graphs in this thread, was observing that you don't feel they are useful really worth a 21 day bump?

there were links to graphs
and the statements that violent video games influence criminal behavior were (i assume) based on statistics
i didnt notice the age of the last post
but i assumed it wasnt too stale because it was on the first page of ct
my mistake

[devonin]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

Well, the injunction on bumping old threads is a lot more relaxed in CT because the nature of the discussions is that they tend to go dormant for a while, then resurface. You certainly didn't do something "wrong" just because you bumped an old thread.

It's just that in CT we tend to want something pretty substantial and topical if an older thread is going to get bumped, and it seemed to me that a general sort of statement about statistics in general wasn't really something to bump it for. That's just my opinion, and like all of our opinions, is something to be considered, and agree/disagreed with as you like.

You're just as allowed to go "Dev, you're full of ****" as you are to go "Oh, well I guess I shoudln't have bumped it" provided you can back up whichever one you go with.

[Nightfirecat]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

I play violent video games often, in fact I am playing one right now and I find that being able to shoot people and take out your anger on a video game character really calmes the nerves and actually makes me less violent. If kids think it would be cool to mimic a violent game in real life, there is some mental problem involved. No one in their right mind could think "Oh this game is soo cool, I'm gonna go buy an AK-47 and shoot random ppls on the street like in this game." If some kids are shooting other people for that reason, there are other things involved e. bullying, drug/alchohol abuse.

That's my take on this.

Exactly. What adults/parents don't realize about video games is that they're just games. They only see the violent part of it, but we as teens/kids/whatever age you are, see them as games that are fun. That's it. The violence is only a side effect of making the game as fun as it can be... Take halo 2 for instance. That's a wonderful example of what I'm explaining.

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[tsugomaru]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

You do realize that the side arguing that games doesn't lead to violence is using more to back up their argument than just with a silly graph? It can help prove a point in an argument and to be honest, I believe it was an accurate graph, but the argument wasn't centered around it.

There was no graph stating that gaming lead to violence. They're main argument is that if we shoot people in a game, we start to believe it's acceptable behavior in real life. In which case, said people were just not mature enough to handle the game, so it's less of the game's fault than the person's maturity level.

~Tsugomaru

[Dimitri13]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

I think this argument will eventually lead back to the "Is the ESRB(Is that what it is?)/MPAA doing their job" argument, because of the last post. Parents should pay more attention to the labels, review what their kid is going to play, and the ESRB should make the labels more clear and easier to understand.

If parents don't let their children play excessively violent video games while their still not mature enough to handle them (i.e. GTA for early teens and such), then we won't have so much of a problem regarding this issue.

[tsugomaru]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

Yah, except we've reached this conclusion, pages ago. It was later continued in the ESRB thread.

~Tsugomaru

[devonin]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

Seems like a good time to let the thread die, possibly with a little lock action.

[masterhickle]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

1) You'd need to be mentally unstable to not be able to distinguish games from reality.
2) You'd need to be a violent or mentally unstable person to do something violent because you were influenced by video games in the first place.
3) Games don't teach you how to shoot a gun.
4) Games don't prepare you to shoot a person.

I was going to post something very similar to that, but then I read that. Except he said it better.

Winning statement right there.

[devonin]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

So...you're actually adding nothing whatsoever to the discussion...that was totally worth the bump of an otherwise dead thread.

[masterhickle]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

So I got bored while waiting for my class to start today, and this thread caught my eye.

I also clearly stated my intentions of posting. I didn't read through the entire thread thoroughly due to lack of time to do so, hence my not knowing the thread was "dead."

[ap19]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

if hentai is considered violent then yes... i mean even a 6 year old like me has access to hentai games in Japan... not just the computer, like they sell them for the PS2 too...

[devonin]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

If a 6 year old has access to hentai games, and there are no controls in stores forbidding selling such games to a 6 year old, that is a failing of the system for handing them out like that, not of the game for existing.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow

if hentai is considered violent then yes... i mean even a 6 year old like me has access to hentai games in Japan... not just the computer, like they sell them for the PS2 too...

You must be 13+ years to post

On Topic: I wouldnt know why on earth a 6 year old would want to play that, but it's the store's fault as devonin said