have you tried this?

[Moogy]

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[Pooping_Panda]

ahhh i see...thank you privateer(and Moogy)

[Oreoninja]

it is possible to do psmo without the bar, goo balance, seen it done.

and no.... I cant do it.

[kickassbuddy]

note to self, bar rap for noobs

[bbcc]

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moogy you might think i'm an idiot, and thats perfectly fine, but i'm having a very hard time trying to figure out what that means.

[hEaLiNgViSiOnAnGeLicMiX]

I believe JSB has done PSMO without the bar many times. But yeah...kinda makes you wonder if there's anyone ELSE in the world who can? (and PLEASE, don't tell me Take and Yasu can, because I honestly won't believe you unless I get a vid)

[TACODUDE]

I don't like to use the bars because it sucks the fun outta stuff. The only time I "bar raped" was when I almost tripped. I said I was sorry and it promised not to press sexual harassment charges on me. =)

[newkidusa]

the only way I bar rape is if I feel myself about to fall

[plasmix]

how the hell is bar rapeing for noobs dude thats so stupid when ppl say that. Id like to see u try Max unlimited, or like legendofmax successfully without rapeing the bar. Its not even a bad thing just so ur arms dont flop around when ur legs move so ur faster Wheres the harm in it!!??!??!??!!???!?!?!?!>>>>>>>......

http://aaroninjapan.nekonet.co.uk/ronald_lomaaa.avi

The guy on the right FCs LOM with 3 greats without the bar.

[wildman]

Bar raping is totally not for noobs...especially for a guy like me who is considered one of the best players in Vegas.

I almost always hold onto the bar with my right hand to give myself balance (and not because I have none or that I have no stamina) but because I go for AAA's all of the time.

The only time I don't hold onto the bar is when I'm going for a AAA on light and maybe std or if I have already messed up on a song and just want to finish it.

Holding onto the bar makes you a better player...and without it, I wouldn't have a 1/3 of the AAA's I have!

[evilbutterfly]

it's because it defeats some of the difficulty. those who can beat songs without using the bar are better at the game than those who have to use the bar to beat the songs. i try to use the bar as little as possible so that my stamina will get better faster and i wont have to keep relying on my arms. i've seen some people who use the bar even on easy songs, and 1) it looks retarded, 2) it limits their abilities, 3) it makes me think badly of them. i can use the bar as a judge of my progress. a while back i needed to hold the bar to pass So Deep, but now i do it just fine without. i've played with people who struggle through Drop Out and need the bar, but i get through it without the bar (well, sometimes i will pull on the bar to keep me from jumping to much on the streaming doubles).

also, i'm pretty sure it takes more energy to hold the bar, it's just spread out between arms and legs so it seems like less. it also makes some things harder to do, like pivots and such. honestly, bar raping is a bad thing. it's only acceptable if you're struggling to pass a song or if you're tired.