Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

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  • slipstrike0159
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 568

    #16
    Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

    I think as far as sightreading difficult pieces, it helps you subdivide easier and keep things on tempo.

    Im convinced it doesnt help with memory expansion at all purely because of the fact that all it is is hitting the next note you see. It mainly only helps your reflexes in that sens, as many others have said.

    I procrastinate with or without this game, its a habit that people fall into or maybe even the type of person. I dont think you can purely blame it on one game.

    It may help with hitting other keys on the keyboard faster, but it doesnt mean you will be more accurate. I guess if you knew exactly where all the keys were to begin with and you were just having a problem moving your fingers fast enough, then yeah it probably would help a considerable amount.

    No matter how you look at it, being addicted to a computer game is bad. Sure you can say how much you are increasing your coordination, but you can improve that by other, healthier, means. If you sit here mainly focusing on the game then you would be working on one area, whereas if you were outside actually playing catch or soccer or whatever, you would still be improving your coordination, and you would be being active which would be better for you.

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    • gerbi7
      FFR Player
      • Feb 2006
      • 276

      #17
      Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

      Originally posted by slipstrike0159
      Im convinced it doesnt help with memory expansion at all purely because of the fact that all it is is hitting the next note you see.
      Oh, so you can hit one note one after the other on EHHS or something? No, people end up screen shrinking because they can't read the 15 or something arrows on the screen at once. I can still play songs that are easier with hidden on however. And get a good PA.
      Squirrels are evil.

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      • ieatyourlvllol
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2006
        • 3221

        #18
        Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

        Normally, playing FFR increases the rate at which visual information is processed and responded to (i.e. input/output). Theoretically speaking, it should increase capabilities in such areas as reading (in this case I refer only to the actual perception and intake of words), which is similar, in a respect, to reading arrows on FFR. However, supposing reading rate does indeed increase, there are still, included within the true intellectual act, other sectors of insight (such as comprehension, interpretation, application, etc.). These areas would likely be wholly unaffected (or at least to the point of imperceptibility). Still, taking into account the relationship between knowledge absorption and reading speed, it's possible that while FFR does not directly take your intelligence to loftier heights, it can help in attaining that level more quickly, even if not significantly so.

        As for memory, most players read small patterns (rolls, triplets, etc.) or individual arrows. Nonetheless, everyone still has certain sections of songs that they remember more acutely than others (often due to past difficulty in that particular area). On the other hand, there remain so many unaccounted factors that I find it impossible to say whether FFR really does aid in memory or not.

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        • dragonschild
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2005
          • 40

          #19
          Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

          I dont think it enhances anything except reflex rates and coordination, what it does do, after ive been playing for a while, i look at a wall and wonder if im tripping, because the wall is moving down. A result of arrows moving up on the screen, has anyone else noticed that wall moving down visual after playing?

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          • darkshark
            Nothing.
            • Nov 2004
            • 4189

            #20
            Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

            FFR has increased my reaction time tenfold, speedreading ability slightly, lowered my intelligence because im so distracted, and thanks to ffr i only sleep 3-4 hours a day if im lucky.

            But say i accidentally knock something over or drop something, it looks damn near in slow motion in my mind, better reaction time is always a good thing.

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            • UberMario
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2005
              • 1777

              #21
              Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

              My reading ability shot way up. I used to read as fast as I spoke (and I speak slow and with pauses). Now I read alot faster and it's still improving. I do, however, procrastinate alot because of this. I haven't been doing schooling because of this and because of building a website...
              That's cool Mario, but how come whenever you eat mushrooms, everything gets bigger but your dick?

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #22
                Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                The only thing FFR helped me with is typing and how to act on a forum.

                Really, it's a game just like any other. The only reason way DDR is consider good by the the public is that it's a fun workout, but when you translate it to you fingers, all you get is the power to see that plate you've just droped go down in slo-mo and relize that you cant move fast enough to save it.

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                • rade0110
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1253

                  #23
                  Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                  Originally posted by Shashakiro
                  I have WAY better reflexes than most people...I haven't lost a game of Egyptian Rat Screw in a REALLY long time rofl.
                  You clearly haven't played me.
                  Originally posted by Synthlight
                  Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

                  Cheers,

                  Synthlight

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                  • LJRoX
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2762

                    #24
                    Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                    Originally posted by gerbi7
                    Oh, so you can hit one note one after the other on EHHS or something? No, people end up screen shrinking because they can't read the 15 or something arrows on the screen at once. I can still play songs that are easier with hidden on however. And get a good PA.
                    Sometimes they screen shrink because they lag too =0


                    Pros and Cons of FFR

                    Pros
                    -You can stay on beat (like instrumentally)
                    -Sightreading is faster
                    -Reaction Time is faster
                    -Reflexes
                    -Your brain is reading all these arrows that come up the screen like hell
                    -Typing accuracy is actually better (trust me)
                    -Typing speed is faster

                    Cons of FFR
                    -Addiction, alchohol, drugs, cigarettes, sex, homosexuality

                    That's about it


                    Just kidding


                    -No intelligence from it, but maybe you can learn some techno LOL
                    -Carpal Tunnel Syndrom, MSI, RSI (lol)
                    -Can damage your keyboard from hitting the arrows
                    -Can give you arthritis (Seriously)

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #25
                      Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                      Originally posted by LJRoX
                      -Can give you arthritis (Seriously)
                      And seeing that arthritis runs in my family, Im screwed.

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                      • beatmouse
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 60

                        #26
                        Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                        The only thing that happens to me is after every game my everything starts melting like I'm trippin on shrooms or something

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                        • Doug31
                          Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6811

                          #27
                          Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                          Get back on topic people, this is a ct thread, not the garbage bin. It appears the consensus is that FFR does not make you smarter, but it can help you in other ways.

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                          • Cavernio
                            sunshine and rainbows
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1987

                            #28
                            Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                            The fact that it looks like your wall is moving upwards is that your motion receptors are habituating to seeing arrows move upwards, or just upward motion in general. Its kinda like the set point for determing what is moving and what isn't moving is changed, so that when you look at something not moving, in comparison to the constant up movement, you it looks like it's moving down. Or you can think of it that your upward motion receptors are firing, and this offsets the base firing rate of your downwards motion receptor neurons so their baseline rate becomes more salient.
                            This is a well-known illusion, I forget the name, but here's a cooler version of it with spirals.


                            Also, I'm pretty sure this hasn't improved any reaction times of mine at all. I have thought that it is very comparable to sightreading something on the piano, however, my piano sightreading skills have not been improved. I think my improved skill for this game is pretty specific. For example, even if I try to use different fingers than what I'm used to, I completely suck at it.

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                            • i_like_ham
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 80

                              #29
                              Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                              it doesn't really make you smarter but it helps your performance such as, reaction time, eye-hand coordination, and being able to stare at computer screens for hours.
                              i have no cool quote from anyone else...

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                              • purebloodtexan
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2845

                                #30
                                Re: Can playing games like FFR make you smarter?

                                i think my reflexes have been a bit better since playing FFR


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